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What is the difference between a 2 and 3 seed in a regional?

Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted by lsuag88
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Posted by hirematthouse
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:27 pm to
2 seed has a better chance to host a super if the other side is upset

Random example. Let’s say South Carolina is a 2 seed and wins the Clemson regional but is matched with the Stillwater regional. If LSU wins the Stillwater as a 3 seed we play at South Carolina. If both are two seeds I believe it just goes to the overall higher rpi/ranking
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by gar90
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:27 pm to
Being the "home" team in the first game.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:28 pm to
I’d assume that typically the two seed gets an ‘easier’ matchup than the three seed
Posted by notbilly
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:29 pm to
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What is the difference between a 2 and 3 seed in a regional?



In addition to the other answers you got... playing a 3 seed is typically easier than playing a 2 seed.
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:29 pm to
All been said, but it's pretty helpful in the regional for a few reasons. We'd like to be a 2.
Posted by hirematthouse
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:29 pm to
The 2 seed plays the 3 seed
Posted by poochie
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:31 pm to
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2 seed has a better chance to host a super if the other side is upset


i don't think that's the case. Once you're past the hosts (national seed and 9-16), i believe bidding reopens. And no one will outbid us. It's not based on ranking at that point.

eta: i was wrong, that's if they're equal. The rule does say it gives consideration to the higher seed but not outright giving it to them. I find it hard to believe the ncaa would turn down LSU money if we go up against some small school.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Being the "home" team in the first game.


We’ve done well as visitors these first 2 games,
Posted by mikie421
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:33 pm to
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Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Super Regionals are played at eight locations throughout the country and consist of the 16 surviving teams, matched up by predetermined regional pairings. National seeds 1–8 cannot meet each other in the super regional and are guaranteed to host. If the higher national seed in the bracket is eliminated in the regional stage, but the lower national seed advances, the super regional will be played at the national seeded team's field. If the two seeds are not national seeds, the Super Regional will be bid upon by the two competing teams.
Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:39 pm to
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eta: i was wrong, that's if they're equal. The rule does say it gives consideration to the higher seed but not outright giving it to them. I find it hard to believe the ncaa would turn down LSU money if we go up against some small school.

Can you post a link? Because from what I’ve read you were right the first time - if neither team is a national seed, it goes to the bid (and I believe bids are submitted before the start of the tournament).
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:43 pm to
So we would be a 3 or 2 for a national seed? Of both 1s get knocked out, it goes to the national seed winner or the 9-16 seed winner?
Posted by hirematthouse
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 12:47 pm to
Both teams have to bid. In my scenario South Carolina and LSU would have to open the wallets to get the super at home. I see LSU winning that one or really against any team
Posted by TheRouxGuru
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:32 pm to
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The 2 seed plays the 3 seed


No shite. Aren’t the two seeds better than the three seeds?
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
That’s his point
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

What is the difference between a 2 and 3 seed in a regional?



If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told it's two, and that cannot be.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:51 pm to
I'm sad that I get that reference.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 3:58 pm to
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We’ve done well as visitors these first 2 games,


Based on June weather in the south, you'd rather your pitcher complete the top of the inning when the rain delay comes in the middle of the inning.
Posted by poochie
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:01 pm to
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Can you post a link? Because from what I’ve read you were right the first time - if neither team is a national seed, it goes to the bid (and I believe bids are submitted before the start of the tournament).


it's kind of ambiguous, maybe it's most money.

Bottom of pdf page 10 (numbered page 9)

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/baseball/d1/2022-23D1MBA_PrelimHostOpsManual.pdf

REdit post with links:

https://www.reddit.com/r/collegebaseball/comments/142kf3y/ncaa_super_regional_site_selection_guidelines/



quote:


CRITERIA - SUPER REGIONAL SITE SELECTION
In addition to the criteria listed in Bylaw 31, the Division I Baseball Committee reviews the following criteria when
selecting super regional sites:
• Super regional competition shall take place at on-campus or approved alternate sites.
• Prospective host institutions must submit a minimum financial guarantee of $35,000, which shall be 75 percent of
the estimated net receipts as submitted on the hosting proposal (online proposed budget and financial report form).
The $35,000 minimum applies to both two-day and three-day super-regional competition.
• Consideration for hosting shall be given to the better seed, including the 16 national seeds, if a suitable hosting
proposal has been received (i.e., meets financial guarantee and quality of facility criteria). If the better seed has not
submitted a proposal, the lower-seeded team will host if its proposal is acceptable.
• If the super regional match-up is between equally seeded teams, the committee shall review the hosting proposals
according to the site selection criteria (i.e., quality and availability of facility, revenue potential and other available
accommodations) to determine the host. If only one team has submitted a hosting proposal, that team shall host if
the hosting proposal is acceptable.
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