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re: What is the best way to utilize Josh Williams this season in your opinion?

Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:56 am to
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9521 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:56 am to
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Goaline/ short yardage


Why not use the brute size and strength of Kaleb Jackson in a goal line situation?
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9521 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 7:58 am to
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As.much as he has given he still has the talent of a walk-on. IMO with his experience he should only see the field as a receiver and blocker on obvious passing downs, because of his experience.


I tend to agree. I appreciate the knowledge, experience, and extreme effort of a guy like Josh Williams, but at the same time you have to get your best players on the field on the majority of your plays.
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
2215 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:07 am to
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If Kaleb Jackson is becoming our next Leonard Fournette then he will probably get the lion’s share of the carries this year at RB. That means Josh Williams will get fewer carries.


You clearly haven’t listened to Kelly or Sloan. They’ve said Williams is the RB1
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31913 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:26 am to
That block he did on that Florida lineman last year was awesome.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287794 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 10:29 am to
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Why not use the brute size and strength of Kaleb Jackson in a goal line situation?


Antiquated idea that this is the only thing that works in short yardage

Josh Williams has proven to be a great short yardage back. He gets small, has great contact balance, and is tough to bring down in his own right.

I’m sure they will use both
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5414 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 10:50 am to
He’s a diminutive guy who’s had a significant history of injuries and one that should be on a pitch count for the season.

I think 3rd down back makes a ton of sense. Great blocker and seasoned vet who can diagnose the more exotic blitzes. And he’s best as a runner when it comes to clawing out additional yardage after contact, so he’s a great draw or screen candidate on 3rd down situations. His height also makes him harder to find on obvious passing down and can be an advantage.

I would use Jackson more on early downs and goal to go.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5510 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 11:44 am to
I think he has a great role as a blocking back and out of the backfield receiving back.

A new QB's best friend is a RB that blocks and RB he can check down to.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26108 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:40 pm to
Josh Williams is a winner. He does everything well and doesn't go down easy. And he has been big in big games for us. He's smart and you can tell he puts in the work. I think the more we use him, the better. I'd like to see us throw to him out of the backfield.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11240 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:41 pm to
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As.much as he has given he still has the talent of a walk-on.


Totally disagree. Being a walk-on has nothing to do with his talent level. He is obviously a D-1 talent that fell thru the cracks in the evaluation process and/or developed late.

That said, Kaleb Jackson is more physically talented.
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
4010 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:15 pm to
Pass blocking, short game, 3rd down. Jackson is more of that 1st down/goal line back.
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
3264 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:24 pm to
To spare Kaleb. Otherwise let Kaleb Cook
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10058 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 1:51 pm to
I would try him at RB,
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32404 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:53 pm to
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As.much as he has given he still has the talent of a walk-on. IMO with his experience he should only see the field as a receiver and blocker on obvious passing downs, because of his experience.


This is just a ridiculous statement. Other than a handful of Preferred Walk Ons and Special Teams Kickers, Punters and Long Snappers, the majority of Walk-Ons are guys who played in HS and won’t get on a College roster outside of D2, 3, or NAIA. If you are that kind of player and would rather be part of a big-time program than play for a handful of people at a small school, then being a Walk-On is the only option.

With that in mind, your statement about Josh Williams having “Walk-On Talent” just doesn’t hold water. He’s been an SEC starter for a full 10-win season. While he may not be a star, he’s about as compete a RB as you will find and he absolutely earned his playing time here. Are you going to tell me he couldn’t show up to several other smaller P5 programs and a majority of G5 programs and start day one? That’s not “Walk-On Talent” man

Yes, Kaleb Jackson is more physically gifted and will probably take the starting role this season. There’s nothing wrong with that. But John Emery undoubtedly also has more physical talent than Williams. Would you have trusted him to start over Williams last year? The staff obviously didn’t for a reason.

Show some football IQ and qualify your remarks. Williams is talented enough to be a a P5 reserve or G5 starter, but has some limitations. That’s a truthful statement. But he’s cancelled those limitations out by learning the game and scheme inside and out and becoming a smart and versatile back. He’s beaten out more talented players for reps because he doesn’t make mistakes and can do anything out of the backfield.

For comparison, would you say Jacob Hester was a Walk-On Talent? He was a 2 star/low 3 star recruit coming out of HS. Like Williams, Hester earned reps over guys who were undoubtedly more physically gifted. Would you have demoted Hester in 2007?
This post was edited on 8/11/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted by BastropRam13
Massachusetts
Member since Oct 2018
293 posts
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:37 pm to
Hmmm. Is your question for the LSU coaching staff? The LSU football coaching staff is the only group qualified to make this decision!!

It is totally amazing that this site has so many qualified LSU coaches. Our AD should request resumes.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61654 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:20 am to
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If Kaleb Jackson is becoming our next Leonard Fournette then he will probably get the lion’s share of the carries this year at RB. That means Josh Williams will get fewer carries. While physically limited, Josh seems to be the ultimate walk-on. He’s a great teammate, he always gives it his all, he’s willing to pass block, and he’s probably willing to do anything you need him to.


It’s a huge leap of faith to assume that Kaleb Jackson is ready for pass protection responsibilities.

If he’s not, Josh Williams is probably on the field 50% of the time. That’s reality.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 7:21 am
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32404 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:37 am to
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It’s a huge leap of faith to assume that Kaleb Jackson is ready for pass protection responsibilities.


Joe Sloan has been talking up Jackson’s growth in pass protection and overall knowledge of the offense since camp started. We will see how real that talk is very soon.
Posted by shoepickshakur
BR
Member since Jul 2024
150 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:05 am to
As long as Josh Williams remains healthy, he will continue to be the starter until KJ proves that he can consistently protect the QB as well as Williams does .
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70983 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:16 am to
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That means Josh Williams will get fewer carries.

TBH, he only had 55 carries last year and was not the feature back. The most carries he's ever had was in 2022 when he had 97 carries, but our carries were pretty evenly spread out that year among he, Cain, and Emery.'

Barring injuries to other backs, I think you see about the volume he had last year
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3544 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:16 am to
Simple. He's the change of pace guy. He's actually a pretty powerful guy for his size. He trucked the shite out of a Bama LB just before Mason Taylor's TD in the 4th quarter.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70983 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:21 am to
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He trucked the shite out of a Bama LB just before Mason Taylor's TD in the 4th quarter.

He trucked Brian Branch, a defensive back

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