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re: What did Kelly do that could have gotten him fired for cause?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:45 pm to LSUandAU
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:45 pm to LSUandAU
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Audibly berating players with profanity, etc. Comments about players. Berating members of the media. Criticizing the fans expectations. Lack of improvement on the field during his tenure...even regression. Especially being unable to control the line of scrimmage. Other things. These things, individually and collectively, harm the brand and the school/State reputation.
Is this the leading theory among bar stool lawyers at Ivars?
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:41 pm to REG861
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Audibly berating players with profanity, etc. Comments about players. Berating members of the media. Criticizing the fans expectations.
So…like most coaches? Has anyone ever watched Nick Saban coach?
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Lack of improvement on the field during his tenure...even regression. Especially being unable to control the line of scrimmage
This is why he was fired for performance. That is not the same thing as firing for cause. It would be an incredible stretch for LSU to try to fire a coach for cause for on field results…and then good luck finding any coach worth a crap.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:59 pm to JPLSU1981
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LSU had the contractual right, and still has the contractual right, to terminate Kelly for cause if it chooses to do so.
I guess the court could rule that; I don't really know all the potential legal arguments here so I'm just going off my read of the contract.
It appears, at least publicly, that Kelly was fired due to the team's performance. If they are pursuing a "for cause" argument, there is a path to doing that, and I guess LSU could argue that it has relieved him of his duties but still paying him as if he's employed. The normal term for this would be "suspended with pay."
It seems that Kelly's attorneys could easily dispute this by pointing to the articles and releases that came from LSU that either imply or directly assert that he is no longer employed and that it's because of the team's performance.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:50 pm to bdavids09
He mispronounced “F-A-M-I-L-Y”
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:57 pm to DrEdgeLSU
You’re right. If LSU didn’t document shite properly they’ll have to settle or pay monthly installments.
If they provided any documentation the contract allows LSU to fire Kelly for cause over a defiant refusal to fire an assistant: It's explicitly a "material breach" leading to "immediate termination" with "zero payout”.
I guess we have to wait and see if the rumors were true and if any documents are leaked.
If they provided any documentation the contract allows LSU to fire Kelly for cause over a defiant refusal to fire an assistant: It's explicitly a "material breach" leading to "immediate termination" with "zero payout”.
I guess we have to wait and see if the rumors were true and if any documents are leaked.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:54 am to bdavids09
Not firing Sloan as instructed.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:32 am to bdavids09
Wait til an answer to the suit is filed by LSU. Then you'll know.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:46 am to SupermanSlim
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If it goes to court he will win, but he may never get paid. His lawsuit is against the State. And the state appropriations committee would have to vote to pay him. Seems like he could actually get robbed.
I’ve heard a lot of dumb takes about LSU damaging its chances to recruit coaches, but this is one way we could seriously impact our chances of attracting talent.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:53 am to bdavids09
This is just an LSU shite show, there is no cause.
O & Verge should have been fired for cause.
O & Verge should have been fired for cause.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:47 am to Steelnrose
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You’re right. If LSU didn’t document shite properly they’ll have to settle or pay monthly installments.
If they provided any documentation the contract allows LSU to fire Kelly for cause over a defiant refusal to fire an assistant: It's explicitly a "material breach" leading to "immediate termination" with "zero payout”.
I guess we have to wait and see if the rumors were true and if any documents are leaked.
What duty outlined in the contract would this materially breach? (Genuinely asking, I've read the contract and there are a few that could be referenced but it's not that black and white to me.)
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:49 am to Scoob
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I'm not saying that to be snarky. People like to drop hints about things, I want someone to lay out what the guy did.
Have you not heard of any of them?
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:28 am to dallastiger55
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That window has closed. Kelly and Sexton are getting every penny as they should.
Sexton doesnt represent Kelly.
He does represent Kiffin though…..
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:49 am to bdavids09
Nothing that is easily defined in the contract
Otherwise LSU would have clearly found it in the 7 day period upon his termination
Otherwise LSU would have clearly found it in the 7 day period upon his termination
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:56 am to DrEdgeLSU
Yeah the contract would have to specifically state that. Him having a 34-14 record, an sec west championship, bowl games, and a Heisman would not be grounds for cause
Unless the for cause clause specifically indicates seasons or games
These universities in this nil era will need shorter term contracts for coaches yet will have to pay more upfront cash
Unless the for cause clause specifically indicates seasons or games
These universities in this nil era will need shorter term contracts for coaches yet will have to pay more upfront cash
Posted on 11/14/25 at 10:25 am to DrEdgeLSU
Which easily happened since he was terminated within 24 hours after the A&M game and replaced
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:08 am to lsucoonass
'Cause LSU fans didn't like him?
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:20 am to BayouBengal21
Throwing crap on the wall and hope it sticks...nothing but a Louisiana lawyer
attempt to deflect and force Kelly to spend money in defense. Problem is that LSU is financing it with $54 mil. and the contract is likely explicit....which LSU ain't.
attempt to deflect and force Kelly to spend money in defense. Problem is that LSU is financing it with $54 mil. and the contract is likely explicit....which LSU ain't.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:21 am to dallastiger55
He’ll get the full amount of damages over 6 years and have to actively seek employment OR he will settle for a lesser lump sum without having to actively seek employment.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:27 am to bdavids09
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What did Kelly do that could have gotten him fired for cause?
Nothing. This mess has Janky Jeff's greasy finger prints all over it.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 11:50 am to DrEdgeLSU
Kelly's "willful refusal" to fire Sloan materially breaches his duty to supervise/direct assistant coaches and comply with reasonable AD directives. It reads pretty straight forward to me. These are normal duties of all NCAA head coaches.
We will see it play out in court, OR, Kelly settles and goes away, hopefully the latter. Either way this circus needs to end.
We will see it play out in court, OR, Kelly settles and goes away, hopefully the latter. Either way this circus needs to end.
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