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re: We were told for years any idiot can win with the talent Miles had
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:45 pm to Tigerbait357
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:45 pm to Tigerbait357
WTF is this thread. Miles couldn't win with his "own" talent.
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:49 pm to JayDeerTay84
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WTF is this thread. Miles couldn't win with his "own" talent.
I am not defending Miles because it was time for him to leave but there was a notion that anyone can win with talent and resources at a school like LSU.
Even though Les had a bad last few years, he had many 10 win seasons and was competitive with Bama for many years
Now we aren't competitive with MSU
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:50 pm to Tigerbait357
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And that Miles was the sole reason we were held back.
Looks like not every idiot can do it.
That narrative turns out to be complete BS
The goal posts continue to shift
The last three recruiting classes were top 10.
SO now theres no talent?
I mean..
New offense, thin lines, young players everywhere. I think eyes were opened last week as to where we are as a team.
Did you expect Natty in O's first year?
Give it a year or two with these coordinators. Let Brennan get some time next year..
Temper your expectations a little people
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:52 pm to Tigerbait357
Actually a pretty good argument by OP.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:53 pm to Ace Midnight
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I maintain it is no point even discussing making any additional moves in the football HC arena until we have a new AD and possibly University President.
I'm 100% serious - it can be worse.
yep
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:54 pm to mmcgrath
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And that Mississippi State has more talent than they used to. One game.
1 top 25 class since 2013.
we have more top 5 classes since 2013 as they have top 25 classes.
only once in the history of miss st have they had more than 5 players drafted
we are infinitely more talented than MSU IS.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:57 pm to bayou85
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New offense, thin lines, young players everywhere. I think eyes were opened last week as to where we are as a team.
Did you expect Natty in O's first year?
I can handles a loss but really? Blown out and not competitive with MSU is a completely new and unacceptable. They aren't 30 points better
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Give it a year or two with these coordinators. Let Brennan get some time next year..
The ONLY reason O was hired was because of continuity, the plan was to hire the best coordinators and they will smoothly transition a talented team and have them compete
So now we need time? That was competely against every reason why we are running this experiment with the revolving coordinators, defeats the entire purpose if they always need time
If thats the case what hell is the point of this new system if we will always need time (year or two) to adjust?
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
But we're in a new scheme. Give it time!
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:57 pm to Hamma1122
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This isn't the talent that miles had
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:59 pm to Tigerbait357
when was the last time Miles had to play the entire Freshman class?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:59 pm to Tigerbait357
If you and/or anyone thought it would be completely seamless then y'all were fooling yourselves.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:59 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
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If you and/or anyone thought it would be completely seamless then y'all were fooling yourselves.
But that's exactly how it was sold.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 2:59 pm to Hamma1122
247 "College Team Talent"
You are right, #6 compared to #3/#5. That fully explains getting routed by State, we were obviously way outmatched talent wise. Point of reference:
This is not the recruiting class ranking, this is the composite of the current rosters recruiting ranking.
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2017: #6
2016: #3
2015: #5
You are right, #6 compared to #3/#5. That fully explains getting routed by State, we were obviously way outmatched talent wise. Point of reference:
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2017: MSU #25
2016: MSU #28
2015: MSU #28
This is not the recruiting class ranking, this is the composite of the current rosters recruiting ranking.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:00 pm to Tigerbait357
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The last three recruiting classes were top 10. SO now theres no talent?
2015 Class
Tryon Johnson - No longer with the team
Maeh Teuhema - No longer with the team
Chidi Valentine-Okeke - No longer with team
Jazz Ferguson - No longer with team
George Brown - No longer with team
Isaiah Washington - No longer with team
That's 6 of our top 16 recruits in what would be the most senior of those 3 classes and doesn't include the couple of head cases that are still on the team.
And THAT's if you completely ignore that the class rankings don't care if you failed to recruit something. Theoretically, you could have the number 1 class on many sites while landing 20 WRs.
When you did in to our last few classes prior to today's freshman class at DT, OL, and QB, things get fricking ugly fast.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:01 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
Seamless.
I expected some problems and some losses but not an LSU team quitting.
Losing is one thing.
Quitting is totally unacceptable.
I expected some problems and some losses but not an LSU team quitting.
Losing is one thing.
Quitting is totally unacceptable.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:02 pm to anne
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when was the last time Miles had to play the entire Freshman class?
Miles has always played a shite ton of freshman every year and we will always continue to because LSU recruits elite players who can play immediately.
This isn't new, this is just more excuses. Even with a younger team that should never result in a 30 point loss to MSU
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:03 pm to wildcat81tiger86
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Quitting is totally unacceptable.
I'll get killed for this, and I'm glad Miles is gone, but his players sure did seem to like playing for him
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:03 pm to Tigerbait357
" we were told for years that any idiot could win with the talent that Miles"
Anyone who pays attention to that type of BS needs mental health treatment.
It is amusing that in 2015 our recruiting was ranked number five in the country and in 2014 our recruiting was ranked number two in the country, but now we have those trying to put forth the excuse for our sloppy, uninspired play and terrible loss to Mississippi State as due to recruiting.
Those goalpost keep on moving.
Anyone who pays attention to that type of BS needs mental health treatment.
It is amusing that in 2015 our recruiting was ranked number five in the country and in 2014 our recruiting was ranked number two in the country, but now we have those trying to put forth the excuse for our sloppy, uninspired play and terrible loss to Mississippi State as due to recruiting.
Those goalpost keep on moving.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 3:03 pm to Goldrush25
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Partly due to him running off a lot of that talent.
This is a load of crap. I know it’s “en Vogue” to blame Coach O for everything bad that ever happened to the program, but it’s not like he told all the guys to GTFO.
And if the problem children stuck around, you’d bitch that he was running a loose ship and let the players do whatever they want.
He’s in a no-win situation with about half the fanbase.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 3:04 pm
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