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Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:00 pm to Patches
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LSU's lineman especially on offense have been bad the last 3 yea
last year we had the most oline make an all sec team and a Rimington award finalist and LED THE COUNTRY IN YARDS BEFORE CONTACT.
if you think our oline sucked in 2014 and 2015 you clearly dont pay attention to other program's olines.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
quote:Again with the class rankings. Comparing them to a class of players who aren't at LSU right now.
they have 1 top 25 since 2013.
it was 18th.
perma ban bet that from this team lsu has at least 3 times the future nfl players? again only 1 time i their historyhave they had more than 5 players drafted.
I don't know if we will have "3 times" as many players drafted, but we have NFL prospects who didn't play last Saturday so Mississippi State had as much talent lined up against us on Saturday night as LSU had if not more. Try to make a case otherwise. Based on what talent the teams have, not what they had.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:11 pm to mmcgrath
TALENT TALENT- not enough talent to keep 17 freshman from playing, the most since Saban in 2000 and that rebuilding effort didn't take long and neither will this one. NOW I hope people will understand why Miles was fired when he lost 2 of his first 4 games last year
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:13 pm to mmcgrath
i just listed all the players still here from our 2015 class.
miss staates 2015 class was 18th. they had 6 4 star players ans the rest 3 star and 2 star.
the 2015 players still at lsu are 1 5 star and 8 4star and the rest 3 star.
the 30th ranked 2015 class had 4 4 star players.
in no way would our 2015 class be ranked 30th or below miss state.
miss staates 2015 class was 18th. they had 6 4 star players ans the rest 3 star and 2 star.
the 2015 players still at lsu are 1 5 star and 8 4star and the rest 3 star.
the 30th ranked 2015 class had 4 4 star players.
in no way would our 2015 class be ranked 30th or below miss state.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:13 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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he was the recruiting coordinator in 2015.
No, he wasn’t. Frank Wilson was the recruiting coordinator until he left in Jan 2016.
He was the Scout recruiter of the year in 2015. Quit talking out of your arse.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:16 pm to mmcgrath
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I don't know if we will have "3 times" as many players drafted, but we have NFL prospects who didn't play last Saturday so Mississippi State had as much talent lined up against us on Saturday night as LSU had if not more.Try to make a case otherwise. Based on what talent the teams have, not what they had.
bullshite.
their best class since 2013, which is 2015,had zero 5 stars and 6 4star players.
our worst class since 2013, which is 2015, STILL HAS 1 5 STAR AND 8 4STAR PLAYERS ON CAMPUS.
ive literally heard it all now.
there are people arguing that Mississippi state has as much talent as lsu whe just 11 months ago we fired a coach for losing with all this talent.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:19 pm to The Pirate King
youre right. i apologize pirate.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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there are people arguing that Mississippi state has as much talent as lsu whe just 11 months ago we fired a coach for losing with all this talent.
2 and 3 year letterman with decent talent will beat talented Freshmen just about every time
and there there is that All American level QB that you trashed all last week that was a pretty big difference maker
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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we fired a coach for losing with all this talent.
Les was fired because he was stubborn as shite and refused to modernize the offense, then continually said every year that things would be different.
The losing was a symptom of his inability to field a competent offense.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Just getting in on the argument but having a once in a generation back may have inflated those OL numbers.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Your statement:
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we are infinitely more talented than MSU IS.
Yet you keep mentioning class rankings back to 2012.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:24 pm to The Pirate King
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Les was fired because he was stubborn as shite and refused to modernize the offense, then continually said every year that things would be different.
this is such bullshite.
if we win those games everyone overlooks the offense and you fricking know it.
in 2015 we finished above ohio state,bama,and fsu in offensive yards per game and offensive points per game.
dont give the offense is why he was fired. he was fired for losing to inferior teams.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:27 pm to PaperTiger
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Just getting in on the argument but having a once in a generation back may have inflated those OL numbers
i already listed all the 4 star linemam still om campus and that doesnt even count the lineman that have left and been drafted. if you want to say our line has taken a step back from from 2014& 2015 then fine but those lines were beasts. we had no passing attack and we still ran over people. could they have been better at pass pro? sure but tgere isnt a line in cfb that's great at rb and and pass pro. its doesnt exist in cfb.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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2015-16 LSU (defensive line; recruiting coordinator,
Can you read? My post says Wilson was RC until Jan of 2016 when he left.
Orgeron was not RC until Wilson left in Jan of 2016, I suppose technically still 2015-16 school year, although it was after the football season was over, but a couple weeks before signing day 2016.
Ed was RC from Jan 14, 2016 to Sep 2016, when he became interim head coach.
It’s really semantics. As I stated before, he had one class as RC (2017), even then was interim head coach/head coach from September to Signing Day 2017.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:31 pm to mmcgrath
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Yet you keep mentioning class rankings back to 2012.
i just listed all the plauersplayers from our worst class and all the players from MSU best class amd lsu still has a better class. but by all means keep saying MSU is every bit as talented as lsu to defende O.
i justed listed that the 30th ranked 2015 class had 4 4 star players.
even with the attrition our 2015 class has a 1 5 star and 8 4 star players.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:32 pm to The Pirate King
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Can you read? My post says Wilson was RC until Jan of 2016 when he left.
Orgeron was not RC until Wilson left in Jan of 2016, I suppose technically still 2015-16 school year, although it was after the football season was over, but a couple weeks before signing day 2016.
Ed was RC from Jan 14, 2016 to Sep 2016, when he became interim head coach.
It’s really semantics. As I stated before, he had one class as RC (2017), even then was interim head coach/head coach from September to Signing Day 2017.
i guess you missed my edit where i said you were right and i apologize.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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if we win those games everyone overlooks the offense and you fricking know it.
No shite. Except his offense can’t consistently win the big games and championships without a developed passing attack. Which was proven from 2008-2016.
You’re just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point to try to be right about something, even though you have no clue what you’re talking about.
Just give up and move on.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:33 pm to Tigerbait357
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The last three recruiting classes were top 10.
2014 (3 players)
DT Valentine
DT Lealaimatafao
WR Quinn
2015 (7 players)
OL Okeke
OL George Brown
OL Maea Teuhuma
TE/OL Hanner Shipley
WR Tyron Johnson
WR Jazz Ferguson
DE Isaiah Washington
2016 (3)
QB Lindsey Scott
OL Willie Allen
DB Savion Smith
2017 NFL Draft (8 players)
LF
Jamal Adams
Tre White
Ethan Pocic
Duke Riley
Kendall Beckwith
Davon Godchaux
Malachi Dupre
UDFA (8 players)
Tashawn Bower
Travin Dural
Josh Boutte
Rickey Jefferson
Colin Jeter
Lewis Neal
Dwayne Thomas
Desean Smith
First notice the attrition early and what positions we were hit hard in. Our would be JR and SRs at positions like OL, WR and DL. Coincidentally (not!), where we are struggling right now.
On top of that, we had 16 players in NFL training camps this offseason. Sixteen!!!!!!! You only player 22 players at a given time between offense and defense.
Top 5 tacklers- GONE
top 6 of 7 pass catchers- GONE
6 of 9 team from 2016 INT- GONE
From our undrafted free agents, we lost 112 total starts combined. That is just from the fricking undrafted guys!
You people are fricking delusional i swear. Just sitting here looking to tell you i told you so about Orgeron. Im not defending him, because I knew these facts that i posted above ,and knew this would be a rough season. Damn, have some context.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:37 pm to Lester Earl
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From our undrafted free agents, we lost 112 total starts combined. That is just from the fricking undrafted guys!
You people are fricking delusional i swear. Just sitting here looking to tell you i told you so about Orgeron. Im not defending him, because I knew these facts that i posted above ,and knew this would be a rough season. Damn, have some context.
so we dont have enough talent to not have the worst loss in lsu-msu history?
its pretty telling you dont mention msu's talent or the fact that they were 2 games under .500 in. sec play last year
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