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re: Watching John Brady

Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:02 am to
Posted by PortCityMadMan
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:02 am to
Please tell me which great coaches haven't gotten to the final 4 in their career.
Posted by kjntgr
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:03 am to
Off the top of my head Mark Few at gonzaga is pretty damn good IMO
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:05 am to
Bo Ryan and John Beilein are probably the two best active that come to mind.
Posted by T
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:05 am to
Thats one hell of a list.
Posted by PortCityMadMan
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:06 am to
No doubt there are some, but his statement came off as he had a list of a ton of non final 4 coaches.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:09 am to
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Ill be the first to admit Brady had some down years but that 1 season, for me, helps me forget about all the crap. Do y'all realize how many great coaches there are who have never and will never make a final 4? I'm 100% sure jonny jones will never be a final 4 coach.



LSU is above 1 flash in the pan year due to a great influx of in-state talent that the HC's assets/friends helped get him. We all saw what happened in Brady's last couple years. His asst/friends couldn't get him a handful of talented LA kids and then with a GOOD team he tanked and got fired with no good future in recruiting. Trent freasking Johnson took that same team just about the next season and won the SEC. That was a really good team Brady had in 2007-2008 and he blew it, then blew it even further because his 2008 recruiting class was Graham, Harris and Warren. We saw what was happening and quickly made the right move.

And your last statement is really ignorant. Why dont you just go ahead and tell me the winning lotto numbers Ms. Cleo.


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To those of y'all giving all the final 4 credit to butch Pierre and collis temple for recruiting, why couldn't dale brown get out of the 2nd round with Shaq and stanly Roberts ?



It absolutely goes credit to those guys who gave Brady that kind of talent on a silver platter. PLENTY of coaches could have gotten that team to a final four. Also, it's dumb to nitpick 1 year here and there. Dale Brown CONSISTENTLY got to the NCAA Tournament and got to TWO Final fours. The comparison is completely irrational between him and Brady.

If Brady was even a decent coach he wouldn't STILL be coaching at a freaking Sun Belt team 5 years after being shite canned here. Seriously, that's all the evidence you need. 5 years at Arkansas freaking State and I can guarantee you no bigger program has come calling him.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 12:10 am
Posted by kjntgr
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:10 am to
I will come up with more, just gotta look em up, my point was that making a final 4 is a very tough thing to do.

Just looking at the 14 SEC teams only 5 have ever been and 2 of those have only been once (miss st and Uga)
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:11 am to
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No doubt there are some, but his statement came off as he had a list of a ton of non final 4 coaches.



yeah I can't think of any considered fantastically awesome that didn't make it. I mean... Tim Floyd? Buzz Williams so far...
Posted by T
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:12 am to
Any coach can get to the final 4 once if he has the right group of players.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:13 am to
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only 5 have ever been


LSU
State
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
Arkansas
Posted by Tigerfan7218
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:14 am to
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Any coach can get to the final 4 once if he has the right group of players.


This.

I'm pretty sure Big Baby, Tyrus Thomas, Darrell Mitchell, Garrett Temple, Taz Mitchell and Co. counts as the right group
Posted by PortCityMadMan
Member since May 2008
1064 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:14 am to
Majority of coaches that are considered great have that connotation because they got to a final 4 or won a NC. So listing a bunch who are truly great will be very hard.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:14 am to
Imagine if we had still had Brandon Bass
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:16 am to
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Any coach can get to the final 4 once if he has the right group of players.



Exactly, George Mason has done it, granted that coach has turned out to be more than a flash in the pan. Still, doing that at George Mason shows you get a good enough group of guys and get hot enough, you can go deep. How many of those George Mason F4 players are even in the NBA?

Nobody looks back on Brady's final four and thinks "man that makes him an elite coach!"
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8974 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:17 am to
Chris mack
Matt Painter
Scott Drew
Kevin stallings

Buzz Williams
Frank Haith
Mike Andereson
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 12:32 am
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:18 am to
Hell imagine if Brady didn't go out and get wasted in Indy (allegedly)... That was a championship caliber team that was pissed away at the last minute
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:19 am to
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Tom crean


just stop bro. just stop.
Posted by PortCityMadMan
Member since May 2008
1064 posts
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:20 am to
Those are GREAT coaches, WTF. You must have some low standards.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:20 am to
Florida would have kicked our arse for the third time that season anyways.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:20 am to
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John Thompson III


holy frick man. Please
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