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re: Watched the replay of Troy game without bias

Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:09 am to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:09 am to
Are you arguing which was more important or which was more embarrassing? IMO, they are separate discussions.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:09 am to
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Flag football, soccer, and softball....
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38378 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:09 am to
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What's the strangest thing about it is, given his resume and what he brought to the table, if he was from somewhere else there is NO WAY the LSU fan bae would have supported either his hire or his first season given it's downs.

I tend to just smirk at the accusation that so many just support him because of the "one of us" thing...but holy frick...can anyone argue they'd support this guy this much if his name was John Thompson from Iowa and our AD hired his career position coach arse who when given the opportunity to be a head coach in the past failed to a tune of 10-25 in our own division of our very own conference? It's like there is a portion of the base that is so excited to see one of their own on the sidelines that barring a catastrophic there is nothing he can do that will be seen in a negative light.


I mean, this makes sense, but that's crazy. And maybe they aren't necessarily "O" fans, but they have more vested in the Louisiana identity than they do in LSU having a successful program.

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And those of us who don't blindly support this knucklehead are told we're hurting the program... This entire thing reeks of identity politics.




Exactly.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62154 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:10 am to
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which game was more important to the program? Answer this question...and if you say Troy....then you're a bigger fking idiot than I thought.



Oh my. I don't even.

One certainly is emblematic of the current state of our program. I'll give you that.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38378 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:10 am to
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Are you arguing which was more important or which was more embarrassing? IMO, they are separate discussions.




This, you really can't equate the two. Making the National Championship game is a successful season no matter how you slice it, and even if you lose it. Every other team in the country would want to trade places with you for a shot at the NC.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:10 am to
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Are you arguing which was more important or which was more embarrassing? IMO, they are separate discussions
Exactly the troy loss was easily the most embarrassing loss LSU has had since UAB.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:44 am to
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Grudgingly because at that point you had no choice and the big money boosters were fuming


No...because by that point there was enough reason to fire him.

Case in point...there were some idiots that seriously wanted him fired after the TENN loss in 2005. Game 2. to this day, some of them will gladly out themselves as being dumb as fricking rocks and it's beautiful to witness. but...given there were dummies wanting to fire him after Game 2 of his tenure, there's no wonder there were some of us who had the guy's back until later. For me, I recognized just how good/great his tenure was and felt he had earned the time he was given. When it became apparent that he was never going to alter the offense and even with guys like Fournette were we going to struggle to move the ball as well as one would think we should, I was out. Wisky is that game for me. It wasn't begrudgingly. I wasn't happy it came to that, but it was obvious by that point it was time. Until then, though some would argue differently, I did not think that. But eventually, there was near 100% agreement that his days at LSU needed to end.

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Like I said, he'd still be roaming the sidelines and eating grass if it was left solely up to you.


Like I said, you're lying. I post a lot...had I said he needed to stay after the time I just said you'd be able to find it. I've made enough people angry here that if I had said it you'd see it linked. I never said anything remotely like that. After Wisky I was ready for a change. Period.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:47 am to
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which game was more important to the program? Answer this question


The NC game. What do I win?

Of course, that's irrelevant to which was a bigger embarrassment.

It's like saying the Browns have less to be embarrassed about than do the Bills, what with their 4 straight Super Bowl losses. At least the Browns never lost in such a big game. I mean, they never got there, but that's better I'd guess. It's exceedingly stupid.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 10:59 am to
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It would’ve been the right call.


Your post is bad and you should feel bad.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14567 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:04 am to
Matt Canada’s offense was bad and Canada apologists should feel bad.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33854 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:06 am to
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I tend to just smirk at the accusation that so many just support him because of the "one of us" thing...but holy frick...can anyone argue they'd support this guy this much if his name was John Thompson from Iowa and our AD hired his career position coach arse who when given the opportunity to be a head coach in the past failed to a tune of 10-25 in our own division of our very own conference? It's like there is a portion of the base that is so excited to see one of their own on the sidelines that barring a catastrophic there is nothing he can do that will be seen in a negative light.


I don't smirk at all. I remember the threads. The "one of us" thing was very real when he was hired.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:08 am to
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Matt Canada’s offense was bad and Canada apologists should feel bad.


So then was O calling the plays vs. Bama? Because I’ve been told in a hundred different threads that the offense actually moved the ball against them.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14567 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:10 am to
We lost to Bama. It’s amazing that Canada apologists point to a loss as proof that the offense was better. The facts are the offense produced at a three year low in 2017, against what most believe to be an unusually easy schedule.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:14 am to
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"anyone" other than Miles is a fricking idiotic opinion, and it's partly responsible for the mess we're in now

It's a completely reckless mindset with no regard for the future well-being of the program. It only expresses a need to be "right" about their opinions of Les as a coach.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:26 am to
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We lost to Bama. It’s amazing that Canada apologists point to a loss as proof that the offense was better. The facts are the offense produced at a three year low in 2017, against what most believe to be an unusually easy schedule.


No more amazing than how the Opologist try to downplay the losses to Troy and Moo U by trying to make them out to be some dominating program. Lololololololol
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:26 am to
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Flag football, soccer, and softball....


Get out of your wheelchair and join me anytime gramps!
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:27 am to
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Matt Canada’s offense was bad and Canada apologists should feel bad.



Orgerons attempt at running the offense was a shite show and the Opologist defending him eat that shite.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:28 am to
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We lost to Bama. It’s amazing that Canada apologists point to a loss as proof that the offense was better.


It’s amazing that Orgeron apologists point to a loss that the offense wa better.



See how easy that was?

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The facts are the offense produced at a three year low in 2017


So Orgeron needs more time but Canada failed to immediately deliver so he needs to hit the fcking bricks?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:29 am to
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It’s amazing that Canada apologists point to a loss as proof that the offense was better.

I think you're missing his point. The Orgeron apologists were pointing to that loss as proof because we outgained Bama.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 11:34 am to
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No your dead wrong. I can't speak for you, but I still play sports and I sure as hell don't need any "coach" to "get me fired up!" If you can't motivate yourself to give 100% the entire game....then you're a lazy frick who needs to be riding the fuking pine and cheerleading. You were prolly one of those guys who got a shite ton of splinters in your arse from riding the pines...if you even played sports growing up.



Stupidest answer ever.

A prototypical player for a position who doesn’t really give a frick will always be better than a 5ft 110lb dork trying to play that same position even if the little guy is putting all his heart into it.

Nobody has ever (in real sports where it matters) won a position based on the fact that they gave 100% regardless that they were not fit to play that position.
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