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re: Was O worth the 2019 NC year?

Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by CajunDan
Georgia
Member since Jan 2015
771 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:13 pm to
You bet your arse it's worth it!
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18840 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:16 pm to
Yes, but now
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22019 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:34 pm to
Of course he was worth the 2019 season! But how many more threads are we going to have on this same issue??
O did good to lead us up to that glorious 2019 season, but for whatever reason(s), he couldn't handle the success or maintain the program at a high level.
I know some people laugh at the idea, but like others, I think the 1st domino seemed to be O's divorce. As much as he loves the company of the young co-eds since his divorce, other than getting a guarantee on his salary, everything else has been a dumpster fire for LSU football. O will be gone soon enough, but no sane person is going to trade away that 2019 season!!
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20135 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:34 pm to
100% and I will die on this fricking mountain.

3-17
Beat down of UF
Beat Bama on the road, wildest first half I have watched
Throttled Texas A&M after the 7OT game
-Burreaux was born
Dominated UGA in the SECCG
Completely dominated OU in the Peach Bowl
Dominated Clemson on a 39-0 string to win the Natty at home

Joe won the Heisman (Really, an LSU QB!!!)
15-0
SEC Champions
Peach Bowl Champions
CFP National Champions

Joe Burrow
Heisman Trophy
Maxwell Award
Walter Camp Award
AP Player of the Year
Sporting News Player of the Year
Davey O'Brien Award
Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award
Manning Award
SEC Offensive Player of the Year

Ja'Marr Chase
Fred Biletnikoff Award

Grant Delpit
Jim Thorpe Award

Derek Stingley Jr.
SEC Newcomer of the Year

Ed Orgeron
AFCA Coach of the Year Award
AP Coach of the Year
Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year Award
Home Depot Coach of the Year
Walter Camp Coach of the Year Award
SEC Coach of the Year

Joe Brady
Broyles Award

5 All Americans
Burrow
Chase
Delpit
Stingly
Cushenberry (2nd team)

14 Players Drafted
-5 First Rounders (Another 6 signed as UDFA)

Beat (Pre-Season)
#1 Clemson (14-1,Fiesta Bowl Champ, CFP Runner Up, ACC Champ)
#2 Alabama (11-2, Citrus Bowl Champ)
#3 Georgia (12-2, Sugar Bowl Champ, SECe Champ)
#4 Oklahoma (12-2, Big 12 Champ)
#8 Florida (11-2, Orange Bowl Champ)
#10 Texas (Well.... 8-5, won the Alamo Bowl)
#12 Texas A&M (Well.... 8-5, won the Texas Bowl)
#16 Auburn (Well.... 9-4, Lost the Outback bowl)

Others
Georgia Southern (7-6, lost the Liberty Bowl)
Northwestern State (3-9)
Vandy (3-9)
Utah State (7-6, Lost Frisco Bowl)
MSU (6-7 Lost Music City Bowl)
Ole Miss (4-8)
Arky (2-10)

Clemson, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and Oklahoma went a combined 60-9 and LSU was 5 of those loses.

I think we trailed 1 time the entire season by double digits, in the title game. We won 42-25 (We missed a FG, a wide open TD pass, and kneeled on the 5 yard line. Could have been way way way worse....)


And a forgotten about stat, but at the end of 2019, LSU was on a win streak v. every single other SEC team.
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3529 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:43 pm to
I compare O to Dale and Pawl, they all got too comfortable and rested on their laurels. Though Dale never won a championship, he did more for LSU basketball than anyone else had previously and did put us in the national conversation.

Some folks simply get to a point they begin coasting.
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2547 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:44 pm to
Fo Sho
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:46 pm to
Of course
Posted by Papa Tigah
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
20170 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:47 pm to
Yes
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65414 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 3:51 pm to
2019 will be the best season in LSU, and arguably CFB history. 100% worth it. Still plenty of talent for the next coach to play with too. We really just need a process and culture reboot.
Posted by iluvredboxx
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2012
957 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 4:48 pm to
Yes obviously
Posted by bayoubooga
Member since Oct 2021
236 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 4:59 pm to
Yes IF we don't turn into Tennessee for the next 10 years. If so, then no.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41350 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:00 pm to
Yes.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
11549 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:06 pm to
I actually think he did a great job, until his divorce. That just seems to have ruined him. He went slap arse crazy doing whatever he wanted to do. Women, running off Aranda, yelling at coaches...etc. No quality coordinator wanted to work for him after all that. We give Brady all the credit, but we really owe Ensminger the lion's share of the credit. He was the one holding the staff together like glue. And while Brady's innovative ideas helped get our offense out of the stone age, it was Ensminger teaching him how to be an OC.

And I digress; Some guys can reach the top of the mountain but can't stay there. It's one thing winning a championship, but it's another sustaining a dynasty.
This post was edited on 10/28/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42835 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Is there a better alternative than the best CFB team in history?

Maybe could be replicated but certainly not topped


I have this dream of 2019 offense with the 2011 defense. Or the 2003 defense.

Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38923 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:11 pm to
It actually worked out pretty perfectly. We won the title and O is still fired only two years later. If we nail this coaching hire I honestly couldn't ask for anything better

Win a title and still fire the idiot head coach soon after that's the dream from the moment he was hired. We all knew this is how it would end just didn't realize we'd luck into a 15-0 season along the way
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13504 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:16 pm to
Hell yeah

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:20 pm to
Emphatically yes
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13815 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:21 pm to
Yes. If you would have told me in 2018 we would have that season and everything that came with it and this would happen after, I would sign up for that to happen every damn time.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

If we nail this coaching hire I honestly couldn't ask for anything better



Well, I guess the better option would be that we were all wrong about O and he continues to build on 2019.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38339 posts
Posted on 10/28/21 at 5:23 pm to
Stupid question
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