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Wade a lot like Dale Brown both could recruit
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:25 pm
However could not coach the talent unfortunately
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:30 pm to zed44
Will Wade = Kirby Smart of college basketball. He's great at recruiting (utilizing bagmen), but he is not a great coach when it comes to fundamentals and strategy.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:32 pm to zed44
Until Wade gets LSU to Final Four, don't mention those two together.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:33 pm to LSU Mandalorian
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Will Wade = Kirby Smart of college basketball
Thanks for the very original analogy
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:38 pm to zed44
Dale Brown had his teams play much harder on defense. There were issues in many games late in his career, but for most of his time at LSU the defense worked very hard.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:39 pm to zed44
I guess it is just the nature of fandom...or just the nature of most people, but I find it absurd when people take essentially absolute "either or" opinion when in life rarely is something "either/or". There is almost ALWAYS grey area in between.
Wade has had the best start for a basketball HC at LSU in a LONG time. Maybe ever. And that was after taking over a program that had bottomed out on apathy. You don't do that by simply just "recruiting". You have to be able to coach as well.
Unfortunately, Wade appears to have an issue like Miles where despite good results he refuses to acknowledge there is a flaw in his coaching that is keeping his good (some really good) teams from potentially being great. For Miles it was his approach to the offensive side of the ball. For Wade, it's defense. It's not that neither couldn't "coach". It that both (at least to date for Wade) seemed wholly reluctant to acknowledge their approach to a certain aspect of the game is lacking. This, despite the fact it is painfully obvious to everyone else. Both appear to have a stubbornness, hubris, what have you, where they believe their approach is "right" and the only thing lacking the the players' ability to execute it despite the fact all objective evidence leads to the contrary.
Wade has had the best start for a basketball HC at LSU in a LONG time. Maybe ever. And that was after taking over a program that had bottomed out on apathy. You don't do that by simply just "recruiting". You have to be able to coach as well.
Unfortunately, Wade appears to have an issue like Miles where despite good results he refuses to acknowledge there is a flaw in his coaching that is keeping his good (some really good) teams from potentially being great. For Miles it was his approach to the offensive side of the ball. For Wade, it's defense. It's not that neither couldn't "coach". It that both (at least to date for Wade) seemed wholly reluctant to acknowledge their approach to a certain aspect of the game is lacking. This, despite the fact it is painfully obvious to everyone else. Both appear to have a stubbornness, hubris, what have you, where they believe their approach is "right" and the only thing lacking the the players' ability to execute it despite the fact all objective evidence leads to the contrary.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:50 pm to Alt26
T-Pear can’t coach at all...if he wasn’t an outstanding recruiter/cheater, he would be gone and seems inevitable he will be gone, likely before O
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:56 pm to zed44
DB had one of the longest consecutive NCAA tourney appearances in the nation at one point. Our program was very well respected. Making the NCAA was pretty much assumed back then where as now we still think it is a huge accomplishment.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:01 pm to zed44
I think Wade has brown beat though it seems, as far as paying players.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:04 pm to zed44
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However could not coach the talent unfortunately
well it was disappointing CJ, Shaq and Stanley didn't make the final 4 or win it all but he had teams with hardly any talent make the final 4 also...so he coached up teams and didn't perform as well with his most talented teams.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:14 pm to zed44
Quit comparing T-Pear to Dale Brown. Maybe you can start the comparison when he has 2 Final Fours and 2 other Elite Eight finishes.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:23 pm to zed44
Don't forget the NCAA wanted to destroy both of them
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:25 pm to LSU Mandalorian
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Will Wade = Kirby Smart of college basketball
Not true at all. Kirby can’t coach Offense. Kirby Coaches Defense.
Will Wade is the exact opposite of Kirby.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:26 pm to Anon180
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T-Pear can’t coach at all...if he wasn’t an outstanding recruiter/cheater, he would be gone and seems inevitable he will be gone, likely before O
Absurdly shitty take.
He won the SEC 2 years after his predecessor went 2-16. He went 16-2 to win the SEC. He is a great coach. He has his flaws but he is still the youngest coach in the SEC and has 2 top 2 finishes, a miracle 8-10 in 2018 and countless others.
Give me a young hungry Wade any day. frick off with the "inevitable gone" stupidity. He has made this program relevant after 15 years of fricking atrocious coaching and program killing
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:28 pm to zed44
Dales Teams could play D and at least run a basic offense. Wades teams can do neither!
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:31 pm to ArcticTiger
Lmao Dale wasted more talent than every other combined coach in LSU history.
I'd argue he did less with more than with any basketball coach in SEC history
I'd argue he did less with more than with any basketball coach in SEC history
This post was edited on 1/25/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:34 pm to ArcticTiger
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Dales Teams could play D and at least run a basic offense! WDes teams can do neither!
The stupidity of this board knows no bounds.
Running a basic offense is for middle schoolers.
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:44 pm to rutiger
Basic Offense is for Middle Schoolers but yet Wades teams still cannot do it!
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:45 pm to rutiger
Dale Brown had some talented players, but they were never deep with quality depth like the blue bloods. He was known as a great motivator. The best talent year was when Shaq was a freshman and Chris Jackson was a sophomore. They only played 1 year together. I’m still excited to see what Will Wade can do!
Posted on 1/25/21 at 2:01 pm to Bottom9
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He won the SEC 2 years after his predecessor went 2-16. He went 16-2 to win the SEC.
I'm getting sick of this analogy I keep seeing on this board. Just because the predecessors before Wade sucked doesn't make Wade some miracle worker for coming in and righting the ship. Some on this board are acting like WW is GOD because Jones sucked. One doesn't correlate to the other.
Wade is good, but like some above have said, doesn't seem to accepting there may be a flaw or two that needs to be fixed.
When WW has LSU as a perineal March Madness team, then I will make the comparison to Dale Brown. Until then, he's got a ways to go.
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