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ForeverEllisHugh
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USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
On one hand I get that you shouldn’t let the pursuit of a record like that stop you from making what you believe to be the correct tactical decision.

But on the other, his face became so so punchable in that instant. Also, he should have known that he was just going to amp up the team/crowd to 11.


Dlab2013
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
Can’t blame him


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Terrific Tales
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
Was it really that tactical of a move? He brought up a slugger instead of a primarily singles hitter with men on base, and then once Dups stole, walked him to get to another slugger. I get that it set up the double play, but if they cared about that there probably would have been a throw on Dups’ steal. They just let him go. It really felt intentionally spiteful


ForeverEllisHugh
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
I didn’t think it was that great of a baseball move either.

Just pitch to the guy in the box.


Broski
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
The idea there is to set up the double play to end the inning, but I think everyone knew that Duplantis was going to steal the second he got on base.

It's not USM's responsibility to give Duplantis a chance to hit, especially in a game as important as this one. They made the call that they felt gave them more of a chance and there are some metrics that support that, it just didn't work out for them.


GeauxtigersMs36
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
Dups got a great jump and I don’t think the pitcher held him on very well. Wasn’t the ball in the dirt? I may be wrong on that.


Terrific Tales
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
But if they knew they weren’t going to throw if he stole, what’s the point of “setting up” the double play?


Terrific Tales
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
I don’t think he was gonna throw anyway. Too risky with Smith on third. I don’t remember the pitch being in the dirt but you may be right.


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go ta hell ole miss
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
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It really felt intentionally spiteful


You really are being hyper-sensitive. They were trying to set up a double play. They did the same thing to the next batter when Duplantis stole second. You think a coach cares one way or the other about some record? Didn’t they throw to him three times? And, Duplantis has at least two more games to break the record.


Terrific Tales
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
If they were trying to set up a double play but had no intentions of throwing the runner out if he ran, they weren’t really trying to set up the double play
This post was edited on 6/2 at 1:30 am


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Dizz
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
The fact that they walked Cabrera shows they wanted to set up the double play. If they pitch to Cabrera you would have something to bitch about.


Terrific Tales
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
So you are telling me they were playing 3D underwater chess, knew Duplantis was gonna steal, and knew that they were gonna walk Cabrera? In that case fair play


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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
You guys are foolish thinking it had anything to do with Duplantis. You can make up all the angles you want but it was decision based on having the opportunity to get a double play, nothing more. Really really simple.


Meauxjeaux
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
I think they knew they wanted the double play In play.

It’s kinda obvious if you have an inkling if baseball iq.


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rbdallas
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
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You guys are foolish thinking it had anything to do with Duplantis. You can make up all the angles you want but it was decision based on having the opportunity to get a double play, nothing more. Really really simple.


agree w the thought, but not with the decision..
he had to figure that Dup would steal 2nd and then what?

marginal call IMHO

Dup is not a huge homerun hitter, pitch to him.


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lsutigermall
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
That was a good baseball decision.


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AtlantaLSUfan
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
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The fact that they walked Cabrera shows they wanted to set up the double play. If they pitch to Cabrera you would have something to bitch about

The fact is was such a smart coaching move made it suck even more.


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roger79
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
Broski has a good take on this. USM is trying to get a double play in this situation to avoid a big inning. It’s a long shot but it’s better than straight up pitching to Duplantis.

I know this is hard to believe, but sometimes the opponent is trying to do what’s best for it to have a chance to win. For all we know, the USM head coach didn’t even know if Duplantis was going for a record. And if he did know, it’s not his job to give Duplantis a chance to break it or set it on a tee for him to break it.

I’m sorry to be sarcastic but some LSU fans have a myopic way of looking at things, especially when it comes to LSU baseball.


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caliegeaux
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
What does throwing at a guy stealing have to do with setting up a double play? They put him on first to set up the double. If they decided to not throw down on the steal, that had more to do with smith being on third. What if the lsu batter had swung and hit a ground ball on the first pitch? His strategy worked. LSU likely has the take on to steal dups. Usm likely wasn’t going to throw down. But it’s a chess match and the coach, not giving two shits about a record, made his call to the percentages he tbouhht were favorable to him.

But to say he wasn’t playing for the double play because he didn’t try throwing dups out in the steal are really two completely different situations. Which is what makes baseball so awesome. And hats why when dups stoke, he walked Cabrera to face cade, again, playing for a double play.


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lsu2006
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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
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It really felt intentionally spiteful


Lolz


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