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re: USM coach walking Dups - conflicted feelings
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:36 pm to Terrific Tales
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:36 pm to Terrific Tales
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No it’s not a serious question. Unless you never come to the game threads?
My point is that there is no way they were ever gonna risk attempting to throw out Dups with Smith on 3rd. So their plan the whole time must have been to let him steal and then walk Cabrera.
So just so we're clear, you still think USM put Duplantis on base because they didn't want the record broken on them?
You honestly think that's what was going through Scott Berry's mind when his team was down by 3 in the most important game of a regional?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:37 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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But on the other, his face became so so punchable in that instant.
The last thing in the world I want my coach worried about is an opposing batter's opportunity to breaka record. For all we know he may not have even been awre of it. At that point they were a couple of his away from tying the game.
Its OK to have sentimetn for our local stars but every coach has to take care of his own.
If its the end of the regular season in a meaningless game for post season potential a coach who knows of the potentialrecord would likely give him a chance in that spot. Duplantis will have four shots today, maybe more if a second game is needed.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:41 pm to Broski
No, sorry if I wasn’t clear. I don’t think they did it because of the record anymore. That’s why I said if their plan was to let Dups steal and then walk Cabrera, it was “fair play” meaning a tactical move.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:46 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
This thread is 2 pages longer than it needs to be. USM coach is trying to win and couldn’t care less about an LSU record. There’s nothing more to it than that.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:47 pm to Terrific Tales
I mean it was pretty obvious they were going to pitch to Cabrera. But the when Twanie stole the base they then walked Cabrera to keep the DP in order.
If they were going to just give him the base they would've walked Cabrera without him seeing a pitch
If they were going to just give him the base they would've walked Cabrera without him seeing a pitch
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:51 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
I screamed Bush League. However, it was the right baseball move and it has ZERO to do with double play or whatever as has been suggested. He knew he would likely walk the next guy and was banking on Duplaintis not being given the steal sign in that situation. Why run yourself into another out?
He was playing the odds that Duplaintis hit the ball hard and it didn’t find a hole a few times. He is a 300 career hitter and has a lot of rbi’s.
I wouldn’t have pitched to him.
He was playing the odds that Duplaintis hit the ball hard and it didn’t find a hole a few times. He is a 300 career hitter and has a lot of rbi’s.
I wouldn’t have pitched to him.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:54 pm to Tiger1988
But why wouldn’t Duplantis steal when there was absolutely no chance they would throw with Smith on third? It was a free steal.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 12:57 pm to Terrific Tales
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But why wouldn’t Duplantis steal when there was absolutely no chance they would throw with Smith on third? It was a free steal.
And this is why I ask if you've ever watched baseball before.
It's not that hard to figure out.
You walk Duplantis to set up the double play, hoping he may not steal, but if he does, then you walk the bases loaded to keep the double play in play and a force at home.
The whole idea was to make sure another run doesn't score. Just didn't work for them.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:00 pm to Broski
I just don’t see any reason for Duplantis not to steal in that situation. Yes I understand the rest of what you are saying.
And I have watched baseball my entire life, and go to almost every game.
And I have watched baseball my entire life, and go to almost every game.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:02 pm to Terrific Tales
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And I have watched baseball my entire life, and go to almost every game.
This makes you look insanely stupid considering what you're arguing here.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:06 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:The ball was in the dirt and it was a bad pitch does 1st to 2nd one I can’t remember which one. The pitcher was struggling a little bit and Duplaintis was one to not chase much. What I think happened was either the pitcher or the catcher didn’t do what the coach had intended for them to do which was to hold him close and not let him steal. The first baseman was holding him on from what I recall.
But why wouldn’t Duplantis steal when there was absolutely no chance they would throw with Smith on third? It was a free steal.
The REALLY REALLY Poor coaching decision was pitching to Watson. I told my son that Watson was going to hit it out and the coach was an idiot or hadn’t read the scouting report. Sure enough, he hit it out. Everyone that heard me told me they heard it and high fives
Me.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:09 pm to Broski
Well in the other thread you said a protest can’t be denied during the Georgia tech game and yet it just was, so what does that make you look like? All I am saying at this point is that Dups was always going to steal in that situation and USM was always going to let him and then walk Cabrera, and I have no problem with that. Not sure what about that makes me look stupid
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:11 pm to Tiger1988
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The ball was in the dirt
Yea it ended up being a good pitch to steal. I just don’t think they were gonna throw even if it was a fastball down the pipe.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:15 pm to Terrific Tales
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Well in the other thread you said a protest can’t be denied during the Georgia tech game and yet it just was
No it wasn't, the boradcast crew just got an explaination.
The game is still under protest, that doesn't mean much of anything though.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:17 pm to Broski
No, it’s not. The protest was officially denied by the commisioner of umpires and his right hand (don’t remember his title) who is attending the Georgia tech game. They walked down there, viewed it, and then officially denied it.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:20 pm to Terrific Tales
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No, it’s not. The protest was officially denied by the commisioner of umpires and his right hand (don’t remember his title) who is attending the Georgia tech game. They walked down there, viewed it, and then officially denied it.
Sure, but the coach can still offer a protest to be reviewed by the NCAA after the game is over. Which he did.
This is what Houston did in LSU's regional in 2014.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:22 pm to Broski
But that’s what I’m telling you. The people that are supposed to review the protest were already at the game so according to the announcers they just reviewed and denied it then and there instead of waiting till after the game.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:24 pm to Terrific Tales
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Like is said, if their plan all along was to let him steal and then walk Cabrera for the DP, fair play. But that is the only thing that makes sense.
You know you don't have to "let him steal" in order to also walk Cabrera.
You should back out of this thread before anymore damage is done.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:25 pm to Terrific Tales
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The people that are supposed to review the protest were already at the game so according to the announcers they just reviewed and denied it then and there instead of waiting till after the game.
The umpire committee and the NCAA are two separate entities, champ.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 1:25 pm to Meauxjeaux
Huh? That’s just stupid. Why would you walk Cabrera with Duplantis still on first? That accomplishes nothing. They were pitching to him before the steal. You might want to back out of this thread.
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