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re: Urban Meyer dropping knowledge this morning
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:21 am to Northshore Saint
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:21 am to Northshore Saint
quote:
We don't have the personnel on the D-line or at LB to run a 4-3 defense right now.
They don't have the personnel to run any defense right now.
These are the front 7 players they've lost between last season and now.
McClendon- Shelvin- Ika- Justin Thomas- Rashard Lawrence- Braden Fehoko- Travez Moore
KLC- Divinity -Phillips -Queen -Marcel Brooks
Ok, you can plan for certain guys to graduate and a possible early entry. But half of those guys are gone from post-draft until now. Including your whole starting DL and a projected starting LB.
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Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:56 am to Lester Earl
Let’s just leave scrubs like McLendon and Moore out of this. Neither should’ve been at LSU in the first place and were part of LSUs worst recruiting classes in the modern history which is squarely on O. Thomas is pretty much in that group too. We had Ika against State and Mizzou.
As for the LBs, we have two upperclassmen in the middle that are both on Kipers draft board, so, again, we are in a better spot than most of the sec at LB.
We need to stop making excuses about personnel. That is not the issue. The issue is clearly that Cox won’t stick his nose into the pile. Why? The issue is that Clark and Hampton etc have regressed. Why?
I don’t know the answer to those questions but the signs point to coaching or something going on internally with the culture etc. That all falls on O.
As for the LBs, we have two upperclassmen in the middle that are both on Kipers draft board, so, again, we are in a better spot than most of the sec at LB.
We need to stop making excuses about personnel. That is not the issue. The issue is clearly that Cox won’t stick his nose into the pile. Why? The issue is that Clark and Hampton etc have regressed. Why?
I don’t know the answer to those questions but the signs point to coaching or something going on internally with the culture etc. That all falls on O.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 10:16 am to burreauxxx
Personnel matters. Top end talent + depth in numbers.
That’s not an excuse. It’s exactly what they are fighting thru right now.
Whether you want to be objective or not is up to you.
That’s not an excuse. It’s exactly what they are fighting thru right now.
Whether you want to be objective or not is up to you.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 10:55 am to Lester Earl
We lost to State and Mizzou, are you saying they have better players than LSU?
If that's what you are saying then it's a major indictment on Orgeron's recruiting.
Your argument only holds weight within the context of competing with Bama et al for a Title run. You lose everybody with that argument when you give Orgeron a pass for losing to multiple shite schools and getting blown out by a bad Auburn team (that also lost everybody relevant from last year's Defense)
If that's what you are saying then it's a major indictment on Orgeron's recruiting.
Your argument only holds weight within the context of competing with Bama et al for a Title run. You lose everybody with that argument when you give Orgeron a pass for losing to multiple shite schools and getting blown out by a bad Auburn team (that also lost everybody relevant from last year's Defense)
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:26 pm to Lester Earl
What someone should do is go back and take a look at the Ohio State team that tied lsu for lost players to the draft
What did they do the next year?
The talent is deficient but the giving up is troubling. That's on the head coach
What did they do the next year?
The talent is deficient but the giving up is troubling. That's on the head coach
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:33 pm to Lester Earl
Mac Jones isn't a running qb
You can win without a running qb if the system is great and you have the players, which lsu has
You can win without a running qb if the system is great and you have the players, which lsu has
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:38 pm to Lester Earl
The teams you listed also have the best talent
Bama
Clemson
Oklahoma
You think hurts transfers to Arkansas and wins
I agree that you have to be able to move in the pocket and pick up a first down but with the right system you can win without a running qb
Bama
Clemson
Oklahoma
You think hurts transfers to Arkansas and wins
I agree that you have to be able to move in the pocket and pick up a first down but with the right system you can win without a running qb
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:41 pm to nola2269
Where did Ensminger go?
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:43 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
1) losing the most players to the nfl in an offseason in the history of history
2) replacing both coordinators, as well as players mentioned above, in a shortened, unprecedented pandemic season.
3)lack of a talented, mobile QB
1. So how many players is a team allowed to lose but still expected to compete vs how many players is a team expected to not make excuses and compete the next year? Why?
2. So how many coordinators can be replaced and the team expected to improve versus how many and the team is allowed to tank? Also, you said both coordinators. As in 2. If that's the case then what position is E?
3. So every successful team has a talented mobile QB? Florida? Bama?
Not one of these explanations is rational. Not to mention, every team went through an unprecedented, pandemic, season.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:55 pm to Ebridg3
quote:
Not one of these explanations is rational.
Then you should watch more football.
You don’t think losing 20 nfl players in an offseason is a rational explanation to subpar play lmao
Auburn has had 20 kids drafted in the last 4 years, for example.
Go mouth breathe somewhere else
Posted on 11/15/20 at 1:55 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Then you should watch more football.
You don’t think losing 20 nfl players in an offseason is a rational explanation to subpar play lmao
Nah. I think its an excuse made by someone who doesn't know a damn thing about football.
There's a difference between subpar play and what we are witnessing, but you are allowing your emotions to prevail.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 2:08 pm to Ebridg3
Nah, that’s the difference between me & the rest of you. I don’t think with emotion. I’m unbiased & tell it like it is. You are the emotional one because it’s not what you want to hear.
The amount of players lost is unprecedented. Literally four years worth of nfl talent on a really good SEC program(auburn), gone in ONE offseason. You somehow think that is an excuse lol.
The amount of players lost is unprecedented. Literally four years worth of nfl talent on a really good SEC program(auburn), gone in ONE offseason. You somehow think that is an excuse lol.
Posted on 11/15/20 at 3:45 pm to dcrews
Agree
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:39 pm to dcrews
They are not playing . Or they have NO Talent
Posted on 11/15/20 at 4:43 pm to BlackAngus
quote:
Brennan was balling before he got hurt man. The offense has nothing to do with why we suck so much IMO
How many did we score vs Auburn? It was kinda an issue
Posted on 11/15/20 at 11:33 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
The amount of players lost is unprecedented. Literally four years worth of nfl talent on a really good SEC program(auburn), gone in ONE offseason. You somehow think that is an excuse lol.
Again this can be the excuse for us losing to teams like auburn, Bama, Florida, and A&M this year because of everyone that we lost this off-season.
THIS IS NOT A REASON TO LOSE TO MIZZOU AND frickING MISSISSIPPI STATE.
The excuses or "logical" reasons you have posted are not acceptable with the results we have seen in those two games against those programs. Mizzou is improving sure but is not at our level and Mississippi state is a dumpster fire this season.
Not having a mobile QB could be a reason to not be in the playoff but is not a reason for us to lose against mizzou or state.
Replacing our coordinators is not a reason to lose to mizzou or state this season as the offensive system is practically the same and you had an extended fall camp to install the defense yet we can't do basic things like consistently set the edge or filling run fits properly.
Losing the players we did is not a reason to lose to mizzou or state. We have plenty of talented players on defense. Are some of them not playing in their perfect position? Sure but they are still talented players that are able to perform better then what they have so far this season.
This post was edited on 11/15/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 11/15/20 at 11:50 pm to Lester Earl
Delete your account.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:00 am to Lester Earl
I am starting to wonder if you are paid to argue with people in order to increase activity on TD. Hmmm. Most of your posts show some football knowledge but usually include some pieces that are false and argumentative that seem to be there just to get a response.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:07 am to dukke v
He may be the next head coach at Lsu, 
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:56 am to Lester Earl
quote:
1) losing the most players to the nfl in an offseason in the history of history
2) replacing both coordinators, as well as players mentioned above, in a shortened, unprecedented pandemic season.
3)lack of a talented, mobile QB
Ever see a Saban coached team drop off like this?
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