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re: Update: Collins to speak with BR police after draft
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:25 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:25 am to ProjectP2294
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If he didn't do anything wrong, his concern should be making that especially clear so this bullshite doesn't frick him out of being drafted.
If he didn't do anything, he needs to make sure he doesn't say something stupid that police can and will use against him. You think they care about the NFL draft? Yeah it sucks for him, but again, trying to rush through this to get ready for the draft would be fricking retarded.
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:25 am to atltiger6487
No disrespect. What type of lawyer are you?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:25 am to ProjectP2294
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If he didn't do anything wrong, his concern should be making that especially clear so this bullshite doesn't frick him out of being drafted.
This is the thing. It doesn't matter if he did or didn't do anything wrong. The police are trying to clear a murder. If they can make a case against him, they will make a case against him irregardless of his "actual" innocence. Thus, you bring a damn lawyer to an interview with the police so that your interests are best looked out for.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:27 am to atltiger6487
With millions at stake I would go in that police station with a lawyer or without one and try to clear my name. This is maybe going to be the biggest payday of his life, never know when a injury could end his career. By Collins not doing this. It's throwing a big red flag to the NFL.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:27 am to glaucon
How is this such a cluster frick?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:27 am to tigerskin
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What type of lawyer are you?
I refuse to believe that guy is a lawyer. It doesn't take three years of law school to know you don't just walk into a police station without a lawyer for questioning regarding a murder investigation.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:28 am to Slapouttiger
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With millions at stake I would go in that police station with a lawyer or without one and try to clear my name. This is maybe going to be the biggest payday of his life, never know when a injury could end his career. By Collins not doing this. It's throwing a big red flag to the NFL.
A few million dollars or 20+ years in angola?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:28 am to Slapouttiger
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With millions at stake I would go in that police station with a lawyer or without one and try to clear my name. This is maybe going to be the biggest payday of his life, never know when a injury could end his career. By Collins not doing this. It's throwing a big red flag to the NFL.
holy shite. I'll say this again. This is a MURDER investigation. He can make his millions, but his main concern should be keeping his arse out of prison for the next.... rest of his life (honestly possibly the death penalty given the circumstances), not trying to prep for the draft tonight. You don't clear yourself of a murder in a day. Screaming from the roof top without a lawyer is a quick way to do something really stupid the police will hammer you for.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:29 am to glaucon
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Thus, you bring a damn lawyer to an interview with the police so that your interests are best looked out for.
Obviously. Whoever said not to bring a lawyer seems awfully naive.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:30 am to lsufball19
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wow...no. Collins main concern should ONLY be handling this case properly. It is a fricking murder investigation, not some petty misdemeanor. The draft should be the furthest thing from his mind right now.
If he is not drafted he could lose millions if he is later cleared and has to go the undrafted free agency route. It is a big deal being involved in a murder investigation, no matter what degree, but saying the draft should be the furthest thing from his mind is stupid. The only reason he should be focused on the investigation only is if he actually had something to do with it.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:33 am to DirtyE
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If he is not drafted he could lose millions if he is later cleared and has to go the undrafted free agency route. It is a big deal being involved in a murder investigation, no matter what degree, but saying the draft should be the furthest thing from his mind is stupid. The only reason he should be focused on the investigation only is if he actually had something to do with it.
Innocent people get sent to prison at a decent clip in this country. If you are being asked to come in and talked to the police about a murder investigation (especially one in which there is an least some plausibility as to why you might be a suspect), you need to get an attorney and you need to be worried that it could ruin your whole damn life.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:34 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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How is this such a cluster frick?
BRPD
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:34 am to glaucon
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The police are trying to clear a murder. If they can make a case against him, they will make a case against him irregardless of his "actual" innocence.
you honestly believe the police just make shite up to clear a case?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:34 am to DirtyE
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It is a big deal being involved in a murder investigation, no matter what degree, but
Yeah, there's no "but" here. You completely clear your name, then worry about the draft. You don't seem to understand the gravity of the murder of a pregnant woman, do you?
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:35 am to DirtyE
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If he is not drafted he could lose millions if he is later cleared and has to go the undrafted free agency route.
yeah it's unfortunate, but being charged with murder would be much much worse
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but saying the draft should be the furthest thing from his mind is stupid.
it's really not.
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The only reason he should be focused on the investigation only is if he actually had something to do with it.
no, he should be concerned because right now he may not know what the police know, and he has no idea what they may try to use against him. that's why you lawyer up and that;'s why you make damn sure to have your lawyer with you. you don't want any surprises and don;t want to answer any questions that may unjustifiably implicate you in the crime. again, this could send him to prison forever. you think losing a few million sucks, how bout losing your freedom forever or having to go through a murder trial. put things in perspective bud.
yeah, if he didn't have anything to do with it, it sucks. but nothing good will come out of him trying to clear his name in the next 12 hours. it's just not going to happen. that's life. but right now, the most important thing and his main focus should be clearing his name thr right way, not rushing to try to get things cleared today, because that is not going to happen regardless
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:36 am to Kramer26
The NFL should remove his name from the draft and let him do the supplemental draft
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:37 am to 68wDoc68w
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you honestly believe the police just make shite up to clear a case?
Nope but the process is imperfect and evidence may end up being inconclusive as far as your guilt or innocence. You may say the wrong thing in the interview. Other people may lie. The police don't need to be corrupt for an individual to get fricked over by the system.
Edit: and yeah the police might just make shite up...
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 9:40 am
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:37 am to glaucon
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This is the thing. It doesn't matter if he did or didn't do anything wrong. The police are trying to clear a murder. If they can make a case against him, they will make a case against him irregardless of his "actual" innocence. Thus, you bring a damn lawyer to an interview with the police so that your interests are best looked out for.
Wait, people would interview with the police without a lawyer present?
Are they idiots? NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE WITHOUT A LAWYER PRESENT, AND MOST TIMES NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE ANYWAYS.
It's your right to shut the hell up, take it every single time.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:38 am to atltiger6487
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atltiger6487
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You sound like a horrible, horrible lawyer
I feel sorry for you clients. What you have posted is some of the dumbest shite I've ever heard a supposed attorney say.
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:38 am to glaucon
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Nope but the process is imperfect and evidence may end up being inconclusive as far as your guilt or innocence. You may say the wrong thing in the interview. Other people may lie. The police don't need to be corrupt for an individual to get fricked over by the system.
ok I misunderstood you sorry
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