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Upcoming coaching hires according to Dellenger

Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:59 pm
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Sullivan, the longtime NFL receivers coach, will be elevated to a senior offensive assistant position with an expected title of pass game coordinator. McMahon will serve as special teams coordinator,

Is it just me, or is this one of the more convoluted set of roles and positions you've seen on a coaching staff?
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Sullivan, 73, will work more with the outside receivers, while Mickey Joseph concentrates his attention on the inside/slot wideouts. Sullivan and Joseph will coach tight ends when they are a part of the passing game. New offensive line coach James Cregg and offensive line assistant John Decoster are expected to handle the position group for run-game purposes.

So TE are going to have multiple position coaches, and if a WR is being cross trained at 2 spots, he'll have different coaches as well?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34508 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:00 pm to
There’s no need to be outraged if you don’t know exactly what’s going on
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:01 pm to
I think this is the most apathetic I’ve ever felt regarding LSU football. Alleva and Orgeron have killed my ability to enjoy it.

I honestly don’t care who they hire anymore. I won’t be attending another sporting event while this staff and this AD are employed by LSU
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:02 pm to
I'm not outraged, I've just personally never noticed outside and inside WR coaches on the same CFB team. Is that more common than I think?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67928 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:02 pm to
Can we be outraged that we don't know what O wants to do because he doesn't know what goin on
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Sullivan


Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:03 pm to
Putting a 73 year old WR coach on staff is dumb. Making him the pass game coordinator is something so dumb only oregeron would do it.

Between those 3 and Joseph we have 4 guys on staff who would never get hired by any other SEC team.

This is outright embarrassing

Edit: so O has a TE coach and 2 WR coaches in charge of the passing game.

If there was one position on the team that hasn't been well developed over the years, what would you say it was?

Follow up: has oregeron hired a coach for that?
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54576 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:03 pm to
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So TE are going to have multiple position coaches
it worked great for special teams to have every coach coaching that unit.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71637 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:04 pm to
Don't want it to look like Mickey has been demoted.
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
Member since Apr 2005
1850 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:04 pm to
It's common for a lot of air raid teams that routinely play 4 WR sets.
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:06 pm to
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common for a lot of air raid teams that routinely play 4 WR sets.


Well that describes Ensminger's offenses to the T
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67928 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:09 pm to
I may be asking a dumb question, but what exactly is Steve's offense?
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6835 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

I honestly don’t care who they hire anymore. I won’t be attending another sporting event while this staff and this AD are employed by LSU


Man you are really taking this hard. Maybe a friend will die and that might cheer you up a bit.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26795 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:10 pm to
No dumber than have ILB and OLB coaches, or CB and S coaches.

Those exist on multiple teams. Hell, we may have CB and S coaches this year.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Putting a 73 year old WR coach on staff is dumb. Making him the pass game coordinator is something so dumb only oregeron would do it. Between those 3 and Joseph we have 4 guys on staff who would never get hired by any other SEC team.

Sullivan is old, no doubt. Pete Jenkins was 76 and I think most were glad he coached up the DL. Sullivan is not of Jenkins' legendary status, but he has solid experience and was coaching WRs in the NFL as late as 2016 before consulting with LSU so we didn't bring him in from the nursing home to coach.

Kansas State (WR) (1971–1972)
Texas Tech (WR) (1973–1975)
South Carolina (WR) (1976–1982)
Indiana (Assistant) (1983)
LSU (WR) (1984–1990)
Ohio State (WR) (1991)
San Diego Chargers (WR) (1992–1996)
Detroit Lions (WR) (1997–2000)
Arizona Cardinals (WR) (2001–2002)
Arizona Cardinals (OC) (2003)
Miami Dolphins (WR) (2004)
San Francisco 49ers (WR) (2005–2010)
Jacksonville Jaguars (WR) (2012–2016)
LSU (Consultant) (2017)

Now Joseph needs to be moved to team janitor. He brings nothing to the team in terms of coaching or recruiting.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26795 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:15 pm to
I don't want Sullivan because he may be a liability in recruiting. But the guy is a stud coach and anyone who says otherwise is a dishonest hack.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94540 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:15 pm to
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McMahon will serve as special teams coordinator,





Things went great under his "advisor" role. Guess he really earned that promotion.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158762 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:17 pm to
meh I've always thought TE should be handled like that....

then there's finding joseph a small role because he's so fricking useless but you need someone to pick up the slack for sullivan on the recruiting trail....that I do not like
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:22 pm to
Jenkins was always seen as a one year coach, a legend stepping in to help LSU get their feet under them.

No one expected this shite to become a habit. O had all the time in the world to find a good WR coach, and he chose one who is simply to old to be any use whatsoever on the recruiting trail.

The WR is often a staffs ace. We have two and they both suck.

We can't afford that, not in the SEC. Louisiana is stacked next year, we are gonna get raided, and there's no one to blame for that but orgeron
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 3:22 pm to
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Bjorn Cyborg

I know you like to defend O and be an overall contrarian, but this is one of the dumbest things you've ever posted.

quote:

No dumber than have ILB and OLB coaches

in a 3-4 scheme, these are VERY different positions. hell just the bench and field OLB positions are vastly different from one another.

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or CB and S coaches.

Again, very different. Different techniques, different responsibilities.

The differences between slot and WR are minuscule compared to the others.
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