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re: Unpopular question..Besides seeing your team do well on the field, what is benefit of NIL?

Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
5554 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Rich donors just have that money the give growing in their bank accounts...it isn't a big deal for them to part with it.
I would surmise they get a tax break as well and that is a big part of their willingness to donate.
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
5554 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:47 pm to
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Perhaps this is a lesson young professionals and these athletes need to learn early: true fulfillment and long-term success often come from roles/schools that offer growth and development that is best for you rather than just a higher paycheck.
I agree, but don't expect 17/18 year olds to understand and many probably aren't getting good direction.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32101 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:55 pm to
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that's the funny part here. People just don't get it. They think they are important because they kick in a few dollars to help some 17 year old get a nice car, a gold chain, and grill....when next year they will be getting the same from a different school. F all that. Burn it down.


People "get it". It's entertainment. You pay a ticket to see a movie, or a play, or to go to a haunted house, or see a rock concert, etc. The stars in those shows don't really care about you, but you pay to see them perform.

Here, the people paying enjoy and get entertainment out watching college football. It's more entertaining to watch your favorite team win. So they are willing to help pay for the best players to hopefully give their favorite team the best chance to win. If you are a weirdo who thinks this is an OnlyFans like situation where the player is going to pretend to like you, then that's your odd delusion. But for the most part you are simply paying the players to put on a good show on the field.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3647 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:15 pm to
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The thing that I’m hung up on is that most people do this in their careers and are applauded for it. “ I quit company A because company B offered me more, or I started my own business because I can do better financially”. What’s the difference?


I agree here 100%
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:39 pm to
Tax money. You know. The taxes they used to NOT pay when all this shite was under the table.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:41 pm to
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NIL is now just pay for play. NIL money, for the most part, comes from rich donors and grassroots efforts like the Bayou Traditions. Rich donors just have that money the give growing in their bank accounts...it isn't a big deal for them to part with it.



And money being spent is money being used as intended. Hoarded money becomes worthless once only a few people have it and no one else no longer has the ability to get it.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
5246 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:43 pm to
18 yo kids were not being punished for doing the same thing the Universities were doing with them.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:44 pm to
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The one time I made a career decision based solely on money, it was a disaster. I was miserable, and within a year, I switched to a company that prioritized my development, challenged me, and supported my growth both personally and professionally. Recently, I transitioned to a new company due to growth opportunities. Despite taking a pay cut initially, within 1.5 years, I've been promoted and received raises that surpass what I earned after six years at my previous job. Perhaps this is a lesson young professionals and these athletes need to learn early: true fulfillment and long-term success often come from roles/schools that offer growth and development that is best for you rather than just a higher paycheck. I know my opinion doesn't count for much but hopefully, it helps answer your first paragraph



You might would have a point if in this particular case the “job” in question is basically 3 years max for most of the players before moving on to an “even bigger corporation” (NFL).
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Just amazing how LSU rolled out the NILSU branding, only to staff the collective with losers. Unbelievable fumble by Scott Woodward.


Nah. We got rid of the Shrimp Boat Captain and his shite crew.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Sports leagues need competitive games to make their product interesting. If there's no regulation, a few big-money teams will just buy all the good players. That's not good for the overall health of the league.


Then there are too many teams. If it truly is an “industry” as you describe it, it’s the equivalent of “flooding the market” with production by having too many teams that can’t compete.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
24392 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:48 pm to
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I would surmise they get a tax break as well
yes, but they aren't getting on by donating to Bayou Traditions...

Maybe they hire the player to come over and give a speech or make an appearance for a group of people...or they use the player's likeness somehow, but a Bayou Traditions contribution is not tax-deductible.
Posted by Pas Bon
Galveston County, TX
Member since Sep 2003
1590 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:49 pm to
In related news....

To those who had gnashed teeth and wanted the NCAA to go away, you've gotten your wish.

The NCAA, effectively, is a shadow of its former self and I do not see how they gain any relevance back ever again.
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
2883 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 4:01 pm to
NIL is only fans without the butthole photos.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19149 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:13 pm to
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but excluding players from making money has been nothing short of slave trade.
you do understand playing football is voluntary, right? And these players get a completely free education, if they choose to play?
Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
508 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:36 pm to
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And these players get a completely free education, if they choose to play?


Yes, a bunch of college classes that won’t really contribute to a career is worth risking millions
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2179 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:52 pm to
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It has only changed who is getting the money. The money has always been there.


Not sure I agree with that 100%. The biggest change is that we're now seeing the "strong a** offers" above the table, not below.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11833 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:55 pm to
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The money has been out there for DECADES, as have top recruits/players being paid. That didn't just start with NIL. Really, the biggest thing NIL has done is increase the payment "floor" for marginal/average players. The big names were ALWAYS getting paid. It was just under the table.

I’m not really buying this.

SMU got the death penalty for paying a total of $61,000 to 13 players in 1985. That would be like $180k today (an average of about $14k per player), adjusting for inflation. Eric Dickerson, probably the most famous SMU example, has said he received $500-1,000 a month. That would be somewhere between $18-36k/year today. The money has certainly grown since then but even Cam Newton was only accused of taking like $180k.

It’s not just the “floor” that has been raised. Sure, there have always been bag men. NIL has legitimized those under-the-table payments which (IMO) has dramatically increased the pool of potential bag men. I don’t think someone like Larry Ellison is getting involved at Michigan without that legitimacy.

It’s also reduced the risk for the original bag men. If I’m a booster who wants to buy a player pre-NIL, I have to be very careful. Maybe that means envelopes of cash (see SMU) that can’t really be traced. Maybe it means some sort of arrangement with a family member that obfuscates the source of the money. The more money changes hands, the more careful I have to be. There has to be a certain level of trust with the player and any other middlemen to make sure the school doesn’t end up getting burned in the long run. I imagine it’s way harder to keep $2 million concealed than $200k.

Now they don’t really have to worry about that. Putting it out in the open means they can pay larger sums without the risk of NCAA scrutiny.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6397 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:11 pm to
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You might would have a point if in this particular case the “job” in question is basically 3 years max for most of the players before moving on to an “even bigger corporation” (NFL).


This is why it is essential to find the best organization that can prepare you for the NFL, which many unfortunately are not.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8280 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:39 pm to
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. If there's no regulation, a few big-money teams will just buy all the good players. That's not good for the overall health of the league.



I’m with you on NIL but nobody will ever have all the players because every mother fricker and their cousin is transferring because they can’t play right away
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19149 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:39 pm to
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Yes, a bunch of college classes that won’t really contribute to a career is worth risking millions
wow, you completely missed my point.

I was responding to the idiot poster who said playing football was equivalent to being a slave.
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