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re: Unlimited Transfers and NIL are Ruining CFB
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:57 am to CanebreakCajun
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:57 am to CanebreakCajun
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NIL is a mess, but the biggest issue is the portal. You have kids on their 5th schools. You have kids hoping around for NIL deals. They portal needs rules. For example, first and second year players must sit out a year of they transfer. That right there keeps half of them out of the portal and allows for some roster continuity.
Then you must also place rules for coaching changes.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:59 am to Rza32
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NIL money is out of control, but a student athlete should have the ability to go any where they’ll be accepted.
And get paid by someone however much that person wants to pay them.
This IS capitalism at its finest. If you don’t love it, you are a communist .
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:04 am to PlaySomeHonk
TV viewership is increasing, if I heard correctly. That's the opposite of "waning".
But, I agree with you - the old college football is dead and it is never returning. In that sense, it is ruined.
But, I agree with you - the old college football is dead and it is never returning. In that sense, it is ruined.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:05 am to TopWaterTiger
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The sit out a year would slow these things down, because they are all transferring in hopes of immediate playing time and faster shot at the NFL.
How do you legally tell a player he has to sit out a year for changing schools when the school itself is only offering a scholarship for 1 year?
Also, how to you make an exception on transferring schools just for sports scholarships and not for ALL scholarships? How do you allow a person on academic scholarship the ability to transfer without consequences but not allow the same for someone on a sports scholarship.
Also, this same BS “this is killing college football” argument has been used for EVERY change college football has ever made. Guess what. Not once had any of it “killed college football”. In fact, it’s been the exact opposite. It’s continued to grow and prosper.
No the more realistic truth is that these are just “get off my lawn” old arse man arguments because you don’t like change.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:07 am to PlaySomeHonk
Is that you again, commissioner Sankey?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:32 am to TopWaterTiger
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I think you should get 1 unlimited transfer, anywhere, anytime, any reason.
2nd transfer, you have to sit out a year (back to old rules), unless your coach leaves.
The sit out a year would slow these things down, because they are all transferring in hopes of immediate playing time and faster shot at the NFL.
This issue was litigated last year. A federal court issued a temporary restraining order prohibiting the NCAA from enforcing its "2x transfer rule". That's why every 2x (or more) basketball transfer suddenly became eligible to play last December. In fact, almost exactly one year ago today.
The NCAA didn't fight the ruling further because they could see it was a losing battle. Instead, they adopted a rule in April that multi-time transfers are "legal".
While I agree implementing a "sit out" penalty would curb the "free agency" to some extent, under the current structure such rules are simply not going to be enforceable.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:36 am to PlaySomeHonk
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Fans like those that post in online threads like these are no longer the target audience. We are captive consumers; addicts.
The primary/sole influence in this game today are the TV networks, and their goal is to get as many eyeballs on the screen as possible. They are doing so by creating parity, which the transfer portal creates.
It does not matter to them that the product is worse in our eyes, which objectively it is. All they care about is more mass appeal. And they are getting it.
Fans like those that post in online threads like these are no longer the target audience. We are captive consumers; addicts.
The primary/sole influence in this game today are the TV networks, and their goal is to get as many eyeballs on the screen as possible. They are doing so by creating parity, which the transfer portal creates.
It does not matter to them that the product is worse in our eyes, which objectively it is. All they care about is more mass appeal. And they are getting it.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:39 am to PlaySomeHonk
Ain’t no putting the toothpaste back in da tube. It’s over.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:57 am to creoletiger1224
Of course not, they are professionals in my view it is wholly different.
I don't think the transferring student should lose the year of eligibility, just can't participate in games for a season. Quality control measure that knocks a lot of stink off what's been going on.
I don't think the transferring student should lose the year of eligibility, just can't participate in games for a season. Quality control measure that knocks a lot of stink off what's been going on.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:58 am to J2thaROC
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Then you must also place rules for coaching changes.
Why?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:59 am to PlaySomeHonk
New information, thank you for sharing
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:01 am to PlaySomeHonk
Most of these transfers have Agents. I can remember when an agent was the end of a college players career. Remember Cannon was prevented from playing when he signed. Now kids are hiring agents to enter the portal. I hate what college football has become.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:08 am to white beans
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I don't think the transferring student should lose the year of eligibility, just can't participate in games for a season. Quality control measure that knocks a lot of stink off what's been going on.
We have already been down this road. The NCAA is going to lose that fight.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:11 am to white beans
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Of course not, they are professionals in my view it is wholly different.
Of course.
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I don't think the transferring student should lose the year of eligibility, just can't participate in games for a season. Quality control measure that knocks a lot of stink off what's been going on.
The athletes aren't the problem. The stupid "professionals" are the problem. They react to situations instead of developing a well planned and thought out strategy. The athletes are following the rules. They, the agents, and collective are 10 steps ahead. As usual.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 10:13 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:14 am to CanebreakCajun
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You have kids on their 5th school
This should slow down a lot. The Portal is new, and everybody got a chance to get into it. So people who transferred a lot in the past got to do it again.
Portal rules only allow for 1 undergraduate transfer and another graduate transfer. This madness should slow down.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:23 am to TigerSprings
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Portal rules only allow for 1 undergraduate transfer and another graduate transfer.
No, they don't
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:28 am to Alt26
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Portal rules only allow for 1 undergraduate transfer and another graduate transfer.
No, they don't
a second undergrad transfer will make you sit out a year.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:37 am to TigerSprings
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a second undergrad transfer will make you sit out a year.
You're about a year late to the party.
That issue was already litigated and an injunction was issued prohibiting the NCAA from enforcing that rule. The NCAA didn't fight it. Instead, they accepted reality and changed that rule in April, thereby allowing a player to transfer as many times as they want without penalty (subject to meeting minimum academic standards)
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2024: Elimination of Transfer Limits for Eligible Athletes
In response to legal pressure from the convergence of transfer rule enforcement and NIL, the NCAA passed legislation to remove limits on the number of times an academically eligible athlete can transfer during their college career. This change allows athletes to transfer multiple times without penalty, provided they are in good academic standing, enhancing student-athlete mobility and opportunities.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:39 am to J2thaROC
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Also, how to you make an exception on transferring schools just for sports scholarships and not for ALL scholarships? How do you allow a person on academic scholarship the ability to transfer without consequences but not allow the same for someone on a sports scholarship.
dunno...thats why I suggested unlimited first transfer.
Most folks I know on any type of academic scholarship only transferred closer "home" because they were homesick. I don't think I know of any that transferred again after going home.
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