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Two Questions regarding our defense
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:25 pm
1) For those who know more about this than me, do you see any difference in the style, philosophy, scheme of our defense compared to last year with Pelini vs the coordinators now?
2) Why does Patrick Peterson seem to only come in for Eugene as opposed to Hawkins? Quite frankly it seems to me that Eugene is playing better than Hawkins.
2) Why does Patrick Peterson seem to only come in for Eugene as opposed to Hawkins? Quite frankly it seems to me that Eugene is playing better than Hawkins.
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Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:30 pm to texastigerr
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1) For those who know more about this than me, do you see any difference in the style, philosophy, scheme of our defense compared to last year with Pelini vs the coordinators now?
Philosophy, no. Scheme, yes. They're trying out some schemes that are definitely new, but whenever they go back to the old ones (especially LSU's basic nickel package), the same results occur.
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Quite frankly it seems to me that Eugene is playing better than Hawkins.
No way.
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:31 pm to texastigerr
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2) Why does Patrick Peterson seem to only come in for Eugene as opposed to Hawkins? Quite frankly it seems to me that Eugene is playing better than Hawkins.
Good question. I have been asking this question myself also.
IMO, J. Eugene has improved in every game he played so far. He is definitely a lock-down CB that we expected.
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:33 pm to Doc Fenton
1) Second half vs AU and Moo U gave me flashbacks to Lou Teppers infamous soft zone. Little worried about the secondary.
2) I think Eugene played as well a game as I have ever seen him. Looked like a pretty good contact guy, can he play safety?
2) I think Eugene played as well a game as I have ever seen him. Looked like a pretty good contact guy, can he play safety?
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:33 pm to Doc Fenton
So you think that Hawkins is more developed than Eugene at this point? Do you think he is doing a better job in coverage? Why do you think MSU was able to get their RB's isolated on our LB's this weekend? I had not seen that happen before but it seemed like our LB's were forced into coverage situations where they were chasing faster backs in coverage all night. I never saw an adjustment to that.
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:39 pm to Aktig
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1) Second half vs AU and Moo U gave me flashbacks to Lou Teppers infamous soft zone. Little worried about the secondary.
wow
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:51 pm to Aktig
1) Same philosophy, different scheme/packages. A lot of the defense is the same but a lot is definitely different. Partly the reason for the blown coverages, IMO, is all the new defensive packages they're using
2) Because Peterson is second string to that CB spot. And Eugene has played very well this season, as has Hawkins. They both are extremely athletic.
2) Because Peterson is second string to that CB spot. And Eugene has played very well this season, as has Hawkins. They both are extremely athletic.
Posted on 9/28/08 at 11:53 pm to texastigerr
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do you see any difference in the style, philosophy, scheme of our defense compared to last year with Pelini vs the coordinators now?
more man
same off-coverage and lack of blitzing
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2) Why does Patrick Peterson seem to only come in for Eugene as opposed to Hawkins? Quite frankly it seems to me that Eugene is playing better than Hawkins
our CBs are 2 separate positions. if we run zone or if we're in man and they have WRs on both sides, the RCB is hawkins and LCB is eugene. PP is #2 behind eugene
Posted on 9/29/08 at 12:25 am to SlowFlowPro
hard to compare eugene and hawkins so far....
hawk has 2 picks...but he has also given up a couple of huge blown coverages...he tends to play less bump and run and more cushion
jai is more aggressive and his tackling is great...he just dives at peoples legs and they fall over...his confidence is outstanding
hawk has 2 picks...but he has also given up a couple of huge blown coverages...he tends to play less bump and run and more cushion
jai is more aggressive and his tackling is great...he just dives at peoples legs and they fall over...his confidence is outstanding
Posted on 9/29/08 at 12:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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same off-coverage and lack of blitzing
That is going to be horrible when playing UF. Tebow and his O-line have been rattled often when the opposing team brings pressure.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 3:32 am to Aktig
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1) Second half vs AU and Moo U gave me flashbacks to Lou Teppers infamous soft zone. Little worried about the secondary.
Umm...all those passes to the running backs that beat us were ALL in man defense.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 3:33 am to ATLienTiger
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That is going to be horrible when playing UF. Tebow and his O-line have been rattled often when the opposing team brings pressure.
I think the ONLY way to slow down Florida's offense is bringing pressure.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 3:59 pm to shel311
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That is going to be horrible when playing UF. Tebow and his O-line have been rattled often when the opposing team brings pressure.
I think the ONLY way to slow down Florida's offense is bringing pressure.
Think you want to contain Teebow and make him a hurried pocket passer, forcing him out of his game.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 4:09 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
Ever since the south carolina game last year teams have spreading us out then cutting us up in the middle of the field with the short inside routs. the problem is not the secondary its the backers. I am little dissappointed the defensive coaches have stuck with "its breakdowns or bad execution" when truth be told its mismatches. My two cents: with dbs like jones and mccray who are almost as big as lb's and can stop the run why not go with the six dbs.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 4:12 pm to BigMC
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My two cents: with dbs like jones and mccray who are almost as big as lb's and can stop the run why not go with the six dbs
Bad news for you. He is part of the mismatch problem.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 4:14 pm to BigMC
I don't see us being aggressive enough rushing the passer but I think we will soon get more of a rush.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 4:18 pm to BoogerLee
No doubt McCray on a reciever down field is a mismatch. but having him underneath on runningbacks, tight ends, and recievers on slant routes would be better than any of our backers. I also think the lack beckwith is killing us as far as getting us in the right defense.
Posted on 9/29/08 at 4:20 pm to BigMC
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My two cents: with dbs like jones and mccray who are almost as big as lb's and can stop the run why not go with the six dbs.
+1...I would much rather see peterson or jones in for McCray, even if they might be a little smaller than him.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 3:10 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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I think the ONLY way to slow down Florida's offense is bringing pressure.
Think you want to contain Teebow and make him a hurried pocket passer, forcing him out of his game.
I'm not sure how much Florida football you have watched sine Tebow took over.
When he faces no pressure, he carves up defenses.
Pretty much every time he has struggled(which isn't much) it has been from facing constant pressure.
Posted on 9/30/08 at 4:46 am to shel311
I can only hope the lack of blitzes has been because we haven't needed them to win. I hope we bring some pressure against Florida. We get some pressure with 4 down lineman but bring another blitzer every now and then and you are talking sacks and grounding calls not just pressures.
I have faith in our coaches.
I have faith in our coaches.
This post was edited on 9/30/08 at 4:47 am
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