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re: Tre Bradford no longer listed on roster

Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by moock blackjack
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:31 pm to
I was expecting huge things from Tre this season
Posted by Magician2
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:00 pm to
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I wonder why, he received a good amount of praise this spring. Running back room is deep nonetheless


Is it?

Emerys been hurt most of his career
Goodwin and Cain both coming off injuries last season
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:16 pm to
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Why are you leaving out his very solid freshman year?


This is almost too stupid too even respond to, but, out of boredom, I will. What an athlete did 1 year ago is an infinitely better predictor of this year’s performance than what they did 3 years ago. Every sport. Every last one.

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Last year was his first year back from injury.


That used to matter WAY more than it does now. Elite athletes come back from knee injuries the next season all the time these days. If he was still hurt so bad, why’d he get 100+ carries?

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He has a history of producing in college you just ignored it because it didn’t fit your narrative.


What?

I didn’t ignore it. I factored it into my expectations. He is—OBJECTIVELY—closer chronologically to his 20-year-old post injury self than he is his 18-year-old, pre-injury self. That cannot be disputed. And logic would dictate he’s closer talent-wise to who he was last year than 3 years ago. If he had gotten only 50 carries, I may feel different. But they felt comfortable enough to give him over 100. And that’s a significant sample size. I hope he’s an outlier and rushes for 2,000 yards. But experience tells me he’s likely not. Please, though, feel free to give me examples of guys who got hurt their SO year, had bad JR years, then came back and had great—or even good—SR years.

And what “narrative” do you think I’m trying to create? I don’t know Noah Cain. Couldn’t pick him out of a 3-person lineup. I don’t dislike him cause he beat my high school/-I don’t even know what high school he attended. I don’t follow recruiting closely—I didn’t feel snubbed when he chose Penn State and am hanging on to some sort of weird grudge. I’m a grown man. He chose Penn State one day, I mentally wished him well as I do all Louisiana athletes, and literally
didn’t think about his existence until the day his transfer to LSU was announced, in which I did—and still do—hoped he be awesome here. Hope, but not expect..

I think I’m being much more objective than most of you who seem to think Emery and Cain are about to—ho hum—just run out there and be the next Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown. But that shite ain’t the truth. And it has nothing to do with Cain personally. I’d have responded similarly if it were Cain who wasn’t here. Though instead of focusing on his poor ypc, I’d have focused my concern on Goodwin’s stature and inability to stay healthy last year. It’s about our need to run the football and ability to have enough healthy backs to do it for 12 weeks.

Posted by BIG CAT
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:31 pm to
Accountability
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Not playing the year before at the RB position is not as detrimental as you would make it out to be.


Nobody’s arguing it’s detrimental. Just saying it makes them unpredictable. You listed 4 guys. I could list 100 you’ve never heard of in about 30 seconds.

Also, nobody’s saying the season’s over, this is tragic, we’re gonna suck. We—I’m—just saying we don’t know who our quarterback is gonna be yet, don’t know who our starting OL is gonna be, I’d prefer to not be losing guys from another super important, yet totally unproven, group on that side of the ball who are literally targets to be hit as hard as they can on every play. But maybe I’m just crazy.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:47 pm to
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I’d prefer to not be losing guys from another super important, yet totally unproven, group on that side of the ball



RB is not really all that "super important" anymore.


The game has changed so much that the position has become a role player position like TE.


Look at the Patriot's Dynasty. They never relied on the RB throughout Bill's tenure. He used it as the lesser option and won six superbowls.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:50 pm to
Maybe Chris Curry or Barrington Edwards can transfer back to LSU
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:54 pm to
Carl why are you acting like lsu just lost prime warrick Dunn
Posted by js1591
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:21 pm to
WTH???
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:45 pm to
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Carl why are you acting like lsu just lost prime warrick Dunn


I’m not. I don’t feel that strongly about Tre Bradford. Have pondered him more in this thread than the previous 3 years combined. Im just defending my 1st post which was—correctly—questioning our depth if we’re relying heavily on a guy who averaged 3.3 ypc last year at Penn State. This is a very Lester-esque performance by me here, honestly. An homage to you, if you will.
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:51 pm to
Noah Cain is going to surprise you. He was playing behind a very bad Penn State offensive line.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:00 pm to
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RB is not really all that "super important" anymore.

The game has changed so much that the position has become a role player position like TE.

Look at the Patriot's Dynasty. They never relied on the RB throughout Bill's tenure. He used it as the lesser option and won six superbowls.


Throw me some college examples. It’s still a different game than the NFL. There’s no team winning NCs using their RBs like the Patriots. That’s a ridiculous comparison. Like I said earlier, Joe Burrow threw for over 5,000 yards and 60 TDS, destroying national passing records in his wake. And he was throwing to 2 WRs who almost literally walked into the NFL as 1st team All-Pros. Yet, he still had a RB at LSU who rushed for over 1,500 yards and added another 500+ receiving. That position absolutely still matters in college.

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the position has become a role player position like TE.


Well, TE is by far the worst position group on our offense. I’d think that’d make RB all the more important. Maybe not. Maybe we should just go Evangel turn of the century, spread 5 guys out, snap it to Myles 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and hope he can find somebody down field and hose it to them before anybody kills him.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:09 pm to
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Noah Cain is going to surprise you.


I very much hope he does, Clerk. I didn’t start posting in this thread to shite on Noah Cain. I hope he kills it. I’m just concerned about our depth at RB.

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He was playing behind a very bad Penn State offensive line.


That’s fair. But is there that much of a gap between the ‘21 Big 10 defenses vs. Penn State’s ‘21 OL than ‘22 SEC defenses and LSU’s ‘22 OL?


Posted by OGtigerfan87
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:42 am to
Lol at you pretending to be Mr. Objective in this thread. You have your mind made up that Cain can’t play a lick and that’s fine but there are plenty of reasons to expect he can and that is every bit as an objective opinion as yours. I don’t think anybody is expecting 1000 plus yards but expecting a solid 2nd or 3rd back that challenges for carries is absolutely reasonable
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 12:46 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:27 am to
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Throw me some college examples
ummm Georgia last year.... could say 2017 Alabama as Hurts, Harris, and Scarborough each had between 124-154 carries, however, that would be about it in recent years. Most of the time they have 1 dominant back to rely on.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:58 am to
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Barrington Edwards

Does he still have tread left on the tires and eligibility left? Haha.
Posted by michael corleone
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:52 pm to
At the press conference CBK said he couldn’t get into it bc of the Buckley law. He also said he “separated” from the university. Sounds like an academic issue.
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