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re: Toviano is back with the team per Kelly.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:22 pm to SouthBendBob
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:22 pm to SouthBendBob
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:24 pm to bayou85
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Not really a sexual deviant for recording sex with someone. Just poor judgement for not asking her and then showing or telling others.
I mean the definition of deviant is “departing from usual or accepted standards, especially in social or sexual behavior”
I would consider recording someone nude without their permission multiple times is not an accepted standard.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:27 pm to LSBoosie
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multiple times
I had not seen this part.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:31 pm to bayou85
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Not really a sexual deviant for recording sex with someone. Just poor judgement for not asking her and then showing or telling others.
If you consider secretly recording sexual encounters, and then sharing the video with your friends, as normal, then I've got news for you: You are also a sexual deviant.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:35 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I don't think it has been reported that he shared it with others, but the rest of your point stands.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:35 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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If you consider secretly recording sexual encounters, and then sharing the video with your friends, as normal, then I've got news for you: You are also a sexual deviant.
Devils advocate here. Who’s to say she wasn’t complicit in the recording and then was upset after the fact that he showed his friends.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:37 pm to The Hurricane
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he showed his friends.
You're just glossing over this part? That is a major component.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:38 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Where has it been reported that he showed his friends?
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:39 pm to LSBoosie
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Where has it been reported that he showed his friends?
I think that is the assumption given the "voyeurism" part. But it hasnt been reported and may be the reason why hes back on the team.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:42 pm to LSBoosie
I just reread the original article and it appears you are correct. It hasn't been reported.
What are the legalities of recording in your own home? Plenty of people have video cameras, nanny cams, etc.
What are the legalities of recording in your own home? Plenty of people have video cameras, nanny cams, etc.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:43 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
There is an entire 4 page thread already discussing all of this.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:44 pm to The Hurricane
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Devils advocate here. Who’s to say she wasn’t complicit in the recording and then was upset after the fact that he showed his friends.
I would say this is the more likely scenario for this whole thing. With the amount of bad PR the university has had with these kind of things, he would still be suspended by the school and wouldn't be on the team if there was more.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:45 pm to More beer please
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I think that is the assumption given the "voyeurism" part. But it hasnt been reported and may be the reason why hes back on the team.
Sharing it isn’t really relevant. The law doesn’t state that you have to share it. It’s the recording them without permission that is the problem.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:45 pm to More beer please
Video voyeurism just means he recorded sex (or nudity etc.) without her permission. It doesn’t require him to have shown the video to anyone else.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:46 pm to SouthBendBob
On the positive side, he cannot be falsely accused of Rape
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:47 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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What are the legalities of recording in your own home? Plenty of people have video cameras, nanny cams, etc.
TL;DR version - don’t put them in bathrooms or bedrooms.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:53 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Let the legal process play out
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:55 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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You're just glossing over this part? That is a major component.
Glossing over because it’s likely a he said/she said. How many people men and women should be in jail then for receiving nudes?
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:59 pm to JimTiger72
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College kids record sex all the time
i don't know about all the time, but it is more than never
what college kids do all the time is anything that they think will come off as cool, usually they end up regretting it, because it actually wasn't cool
Maybe he is a deviant and will be breaking in through some girls window and masturbating in a few years
Or, maybe he's a good kid, that did something he thought would be 'cool,' seriously regrets it and has learned a huge lesson and will never do it again
Posted on 8/1/24 at 1:08 pm to JustinT37
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Should be kicked out of school.
Innocent until proven guilty and we don’t know she didn’t give him permission or about the clock camera thing.
It will be very hard to prove I would assume.
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