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re: To all u CLM haters, if he's not developing talent then why....
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:41 pm to broadcaster
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:41 pm to broadcaster
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I guess that's Sabans players to
To what? To where?
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:44 pm to BeeFense5
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Examples of these LSU NFL players that didn't do anything in college? Thanks
Wright
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:44 pm to Topwater Trout
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How many championships with those players?
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:45 pm to LuzianaFootball
"Haters"
The term of morons everywhere.
The term of morons everywhere.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:50 pm to Topwater Trout
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I'm sorry did they have a record number of players get drafted?
So is it possible some coaches can suceed with less talent? If so why? scheme? coaching?
Nick Saban succeeds with a fuuuuuuck ton of talent.
Urban Meyers succeed with the same talent, and then failed without it.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:51 pm to Topwater Trout
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Wright
Wright was a solid player for LSU. There just wasn't enough ball to go around at that point with every one around him. That's a pretty weak argument for wasted LSU talent.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:52 pm to SammyTiger
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Nick Saban
Urban Meyers
won multiple national titles also
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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won multiple national titles also
Like is said they are the only ones who can say they did better.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 3:58 pm to CptBengal
I think that the talent wins out despite of the coaching.
Reminds me of my high school baseball team which continually fed kids to top tier college programs, including several who went on to play in the pros. And, despite the talent, the teams never went far in the playoffs, for which I blame the coaching.
Reminds me of my high school baseball team which continually fed kids to top tier college programs, including several who went on to play in the pros. And, despite the talent, the teams never went far in the playoffs, for which I blame the coaching.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:13 pm to SammyTiger
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Like is said they are the only ones who can say they did better.
Can also be said that there are many coaches who do a lot with far less talent. No reason we should have such terrible offenses in relation to the talent on campus every year.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 4:46 pm to Topwater Trout
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Can also be said that there are many coaches who do a lot with far less talent.
There are definitely teams the have more moral victories than LSU, but that is moral victories. There are some great offenses out there, but they have horrible defenses. There are some teams that put up gaudy numbers everywhere but the wins column.
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No reason we should have such terrible offenses in relation to the talent on campus every year.
We don't always have elite offensive talent. We have elite offensive layers now but they are freshmen.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:06 pm to broadcaster
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Do we have a record number of players drafted in the last three years, not to mention the undrafted free agents doing so well in the NFL? I guess that's Sabans players to!
didn't read the responses to your thread but I haven't seen anyone question his ability to develop players, that is obviously one of his strengths. What most (sensible) fans question is his (along with Cams) offensive philosophy which seems to be what is holding back this team. Some of the dumber fans question his ability to develop QB's when it is also obviously the system he puts them into. Hard for a young QB to look worth a crap in this system. Hell even Mett didn't look that good his first year here and it was his 4th year of playing at the college level (Georgia, JUCO, and redshirt).
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:09 pm to More beer please
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What isnt fair is them complaining about talent not being developed one minute then at the end of the season saying they only got drafted because we recruited so well.
His NFL draft numbers far out perform his recruit rankings. Therefore : talent is being developed.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:11 pm to tigerfan5803
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they were lowly ranked out of high school, then the recruiting service got it wrong. If they were ranked high, then they were already good and didn't need devolving. Gotcha
so0 true, so many dumbasses on this board
holy fricking jesus
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:13 pm to AlwysATgr
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quote:How many championships with those players? This is a pertinent question.
let me shed some light for ya'll. The offense system we run is like playing an opponent with one armed tied behind your back. Tough to do. It's amazing we do as well as we do with it.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:20 pm to broadcaster
I do not think people "hate" LM I think it is more of being "hard heard" and not able to adapt to the situation and adjust in a "minute".
2011 NC game is a perfect example J J should have been yanked early, but not L M, it is like he will not change fearing it is not his decision??
If we do not get our QB situation the next two years will be a total waste with our talent.
2011 NC game is a perfect example J J should have been yanked early, but not L M, it is like he will not change fearing it is not his decision??
If we do not get our QB situation the next two years will be a total waste with our talent.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:44 pm to SwatMitchell
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Out of the 50 or so LSU players in the NFL, only a few (around 5) are OL. This is glaring, especially since Miles played OL at Michigan.
2 that were recruited by Miles - Joe Barksdale and Trai Turner.
Those 2 are the only offensive linemen recruited by Miles that have been drafted. Both 3rd-round picks.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 5:51 pm to inadaze
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2 that were recruited by Miles - Joe Barksdale and Trai Turner.
Those 2 are the only offensive linemen recruited by Miles that have been drafted. Both 3rd-round picks.
no matter what your stance on Miles is, there comes a time when Miles, and the people that hired him have to sit down and assess, are you doing what we/I was hired for? if not, do we/I need to make changes so that I might fulfill those objectives? if somebody is too comfortable to change their stance then one side or the other needs to be changed
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 11/14/14 at 6:34 pm to Topwater Trout
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How many championships with those players?
He has two SEC championships and two NC game appearances in 10 years and he won one. There are other good teams in our conference. You can't win them all. I wish we would have more, but that's not the same thing as saying he underachieved. The guy wins championships. And even when he doesn't, we are competitive.
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