re: Title IX Allegations - Update

The victim could have gone to law enforcement but if she reported it to her coach, teacher or any other faculty member, they are bound by law ( Title IX ) to report the incident and it has to be investigated. That’s the law, if you don’t, you’re violating that law and you and your school are subject to sanctions, firing and lawsuits. My wife is a school counselor and she has to strictly adhere to these rules or she can be fired and sued.

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Bama used to get rid of Mike Price.

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Its rolling baby

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Would you want coaches or administrators at LSU who helped cover up rape and assault? Or would you be ok with it because “well she could have gone to the police”?

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Secanrio 1- Coach O my girlfriend said Guice raped her (O should have encouraged kid to tell gf go to the cops). Outside if that I don't really expect much from him. I guess title Ix requires him to report?

Scenario 2- female tennis player to coach. I got raped -. I expect that coach to got cops everytime and if they didn't they should be fired.

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Each coach should follow university policy.
Does anyone really know what that us? I don’t but i suspect it would be for a coach to report it to the proper people at LSU and to the AD.
I don’t think it’s the coach’s job to investigate.
The coach should show concern and tell the accuser that he is letting the right people know.

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Agreed

I am required to report this by law. Here is the support structure we have in place.

Should basically be a handbook to follow. I think we are screwed

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Easy out like Bama used to get rid of Mike Price.

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It won’t be easy. O would either get paid his buyout or with a lawsuit settlement if they try to fire him with cause without some ironclad evidence that he was an active participant.

You guys pinning your hopes to this are going to be disappointed.

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IMO, O is gone. LSU's legal team will search for anything O did or said that at the very least could be considered a gray area so that they can fire him for cause. He sealed his own fate when that pic of him and Lauderdale in bed came out online. He made himself a buffoon.

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The chances of this are remote. If they fire O, he’s getting paid, one way or the other. You are dreaming if you think they get out of his contract scott free.

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are you sure contract lawyer? So there’s nothing in there about being responsible for the program as a head coach including the actions of your staff. This isn’t “proven beyond the shadow of a doubt” dummy. This is about reasonableness. Hell, OJ didn’t go to jail for murder, but he sure got his arse sued and lost pretty much everything that wasn’t hidden. Orgeron will be held accountable in his part if he either knew or should have known about the allegations and failed to address it accordingly including but not limited to firing or suspending or reporting to the police any of his staff as well as the athlete involved should they acted inappropriately. This accountability may include his dismissal or forfeiture of his salary or restitution payments to the victims if any of this is true when he was HC or if he was involved when he wasn’t and it was his position group involved.

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I never said he couldn’t or wouldn’t be fired, but I would bet the fricking house he gets paid to leave if the admin pulls that trigger. I would perma-ban bet you on it with confidence, because you don’t know what you are talking about.

Even Art fricking Biles sued Baylor and there was a mountain of evidence directly implicating him. It failed of course, but if a guy who was caught dead to rights sued his former employer to get paid, you can bet your arse O would. Any coach in the same position would. And unless LSU had that level of proof lined up against him, it would go exactly as I said. It would end in a settlement.

Being that all parties would know all of this up front, my guess is they would negotiate a reduced buyout together to avoid all of the drama and protracted legal maneuvering.

If O is fired, it will be because a complete purge is taking place. If that happens, those of you angling to use this just to get rid of him on the cheap will still be disappointed, because we will be Baylor for a few years and no one worth a damn will take the job.

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His father figure, a big LSU booster, was intimidating the victim and other other witnesses. I mean we can start there lol

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Lester Earl is a big booster? Hmm

Anyway, she was so intimidated that she still stays in contact with the guy.

Actually in scenario 1, by law, he’s supposed to report it. It doesn’t matter if it’s from a third party, it still has to be reported and let it be investigated and if nothing turns up then you have covered your arse. The coach, teacher or faculty member doesn’t do the investigation. In the case of my wife as a school counselor, it is turned over to the OCS ( office of child safety ). Not sure if it’s the same for colleges, universities, etc.

The only thing I will say is that Jade Lewis, Drake Davis' accuser, left the LSU tennis team to turn pro after her freshman season ended, which was late May of 2017. She was no longer on the tennis team when she turned pro. This is noteworthy because she stated in her tweet that the abuse from Davis occurred from May of 2017 through August 2018. She wasn't a member of the tennis team for the by far majority of that period. It's also my understanding that she wasn't enrolled at LSU for a significant portion of the time period she stated the abuse occurred, as she was pursuing her pro tennis career. And finally, Lewis initially denied any rumors/accusations of abuse by Davis. She continued to deny this to both the police and LSU even after Davis was arrested in August of 2018 and did it again when Davis was arrested in September of 2018.

I'm fine with LSU facing the consequences if they did not do what they were supposed to do, but the Lewis situation is more complicated than the USA article makes it out to be. LSU could have been aware of rumors of abuse but what are they supposed to do if the female being abused denies it and won't accept any help from them or the police.

Just to be clear though, I 100% believe Lewis was abused and that Davis should be in jail for it.