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Title IX Allegations - Update
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:20 pm
LSU Starts Title IX Investigation
Sure hope none of these allegations are true, but that sure feels like wishful thinking. Probably, a lot of you like me, wants to initially just dismiss this stuff, but if you pause and reflect (and have a heart), you will think about the seriousness of how the outcome of this investigation could affect LSU.
I hope the investigation is above board and they go after anyone and everyone that deserves it. Even if those people coach a football team or run an athletic department. If these young women are truly victims, then they deserve those that would not listen to them and/or covered-up what they had to say to be punished.
Sure hope none of these allegations are true, but that sure feels like wishful thinking. Probably, a lot of you like me, wants to initially just dismiss this stuff, but if you pause and reflect (and have a heart), you will think about the seriousness of how the outcome of this investigation could affect LSU.
I hope the investigation is above board and they go after anyone and everyone that deserves it. Even if those people coach a football team or run an athletic department. If these young women are truly victims, then they deserve those that would not listen to them and/or covered-up what they had to say to be punished.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:22 pm to chicageaux_tiger
This might be our chance to get rid of Coach O!
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:24 pm to chicageaux_tiger
quote:
If these young women are truly victims,
Should have gone to the police?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:28 pm to chicageaux_tiger
If there was a coverup (and I mean IF) then those people should get the axe ASAP and never be allowed back on campus.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:32 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Well, two of those people have already been axed in F King and Alleva, correct?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:33 pm to chicageaux_tiger
You are a fricking idiot that is getting all your info from USA Today without doing any kind of other research
Godchaux and Phillips were suspended until cleared by BRPD
Delpits allegations were reported
Provens/Parrish / the other 2 recent ones all were suspended as soon or before allegations came out then left school or were kicked off football team
Verge/ the tennis coaches/Joseph are in trouble for Davis/Guice situations
Fking/alleva/ some other school admin might be. O and miles might be
Woodward won’t be
Godchaux and Phillips were suspended until cleared by BRPD
Delpits allegations were reported
Provens/Parrish / the other 2 recent ones all were suspended as soon or before allegations came out then left school or were kicked off football team
Verge/ the tennis coaches/Joseph are in trouble for Davis/Guice situations
Fking/alleva/ some other school admin might be. O and miles might be
Woodward won’t be
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:37 pm to CalTiger53
quote:
You are posting old news?
Title IX experts from the Husch Blackwell law firm met with LSU officials Wednesday, 11/25. This is according to the campus-wide email sent by interim president Thomas Galligan and athletic director Scott Woodward.
If that is old news, then my bad.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:44 pm to chicageaux_tiger
why is the university on the hook,why didnt the victim go to law enforcement$
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:46 pm to Midtiger farm
quote:
You are a fricking idiot that is getting all your info from USA Today without doing any kind of other research
Please call president Galligan and tell him not to spend any money on having the Husch Blackwell law firm do an independent investigation as he announced last week. Glad you can save the university this money since you know everything that happened.
If Sandusky was at LSU when he was playing with little boys, I must assume you would have defended him too. Nothing to see here, just move along.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:52 pm to Bayoutigre
quote:
why is the university on the hook,why didnt the victim go to law enforcement$
Like it or not, the Title IX laws say:
A college or university that receives federal funds may be held legally responsible when it knows about and ignores sexual harassment or assault in its programs or activities.
Believe USA Today or not, this is what they are reporting:
USA TODAY found that at least nine LSU football players have been reported to police for sexual misconduct and dating violence since coach Ed Orgeron took over the team four years ago. The university has disciplined two of them.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:04 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:
Should have gone to the police?
Yes, of course. The victims should be blamed.
Wow.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:10 pm to Byrdybyrd05
quote:
This might be our chance to get rid of Coach O!
There is very little chance of that happening. USA Today investigated for a year and found no direct links. The systems at schools are set up to keep the head coaches out of these situations until absolutely necessary so it won’t come back to them.
I’m not saying O absolutely wasn’t involved. I’m just saying the chance of there being a paper trail leading back to him is very low. If you can’t prove he was directly involved, then you can’t fire him with cause. If the administration tried, he would sue and force a settlement for most, if not all, of his buyout. You can’t fire anyone on staff with cause unless it’s ironclad.
So you are living in fantasy land. This is not going to be an escape clause from O’s contract.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:11 pm to Midtiger farm
Also Midtiger Farm;
You should probably explain all of your "truth" to the 200+ students and growing that started protesting LSU's handling of title IX alleged offenses on Wednesday. My point with starting this thread is this has a chance to become real big news, real fast.
It isn't going away just because you call me a fricking idiot for bringing up the topic.
You should probably explain all of your "truth" to the 200+ students and growing that started protesting LSU's handling of title IX alleged offenses on Wednesday. My point with starting this thread is this has a chance to become real big news, real fast.
It isn't going away just because you call me a fricking idiot for bringing up the topic.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:20 pm to chicageaux_tiger
Any chance that Pelini can be linked as well?
It's ok to joke about, Chapelle said so- Cosby made it ok?!?
It's ok to joke about, Chapelle said so- Cosby made it ok?!?
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:24 pm to chicageaux_tiger
quote:
Believe USA Today or not, this is what they are reporting: USA TODAY found that at least nine LSU football players have been reported to police for sexual misconduct and dating violence since coach Ed Orgeron took over the team four years ago. The university has disciplined two of them.
USA Today’s story was padded with bullshite allegations to heighten the drama and the link to the athletic dept. The stuff they reported on Guice and Davis is terrible and has to be dealt with. However, the rest of their reporting on the football team appears to at best be poorly researched and at worst, completely slanted and misrepresented for heightened effect.
The reporting on Guice, Davis and the other university students seems to have been well done and that should have been the extent of it. Lobbing additional accusations against guys who were either dealt with via proper Title 9 procedures, had their Title 9 proceeding on hold pending legal actions in progress, were already in the transfer portal and gone before Title 9 got involved, or were fricking publicly cleared is bullshite. They keep going back to the same well that LSU only officially punished two guys, but every LSU football fan knows what has happened to these other guys. Parker, Provins and Parish were dealt with. So was the Tight End who’s name escapes me. Reporting the way USA Today is not intellectually honest or unbiased.
These investigative “journalists” had a real story here but ruined their credibility with many of us by padding their article with fluff and borderline libel to make a bigger splash.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:10 am to thelawnwranglers
Shame on you! It's easy looking from the outside to say what a young girl should have done, but you have no clue what kind of trauma the young ladies were going through. Everyone handles situations different, so to say how someone should handle a situation that you have never experienced is just being an arse. Some of these young ladies may have to get counseling for the rest of their lives because of this incident. I support the victims, not the thugs!
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:19 am to misey94
quote:are you sure contract lawyer? So there’s nothing in there about being responsible for the program as a head coach including the actions of your staff. This isn’t “proven beyond the shadow of a doubt” dummy. This is about reasonableness. Hell, OJ didn’t go to jail for murder, but he sure got his arse sued and lost pretty much everything that wasn’t hidden.
You can’t fire anyone on staff with cause unless it’s ironclad.
Orgeron will be held accountable in his part if he either knew or should have known about the allegations and failed to address it accordingly including but not limited to firing or suspending or reporting to the police any of his staff as well as the athlete involved should they acted inappropriately. This accountability may include his dismissal or forfeiture of his salary or restitution payments to the victims if any of this is true when he was HC or if he was involved when he wasn’t and it was his position group involved.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 6:23 am
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:33 am to chicageaux_tiger
Urban Meyer to LSU
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:42 am to Bayoutigre
quote:
why is the university on the hook,why didnt the victim go to law enforcement$
This situation has turned into people mad at O for the abysmal product on the field and hoping these allegations are true so we have justification to fire him with cause. It’s pretty sad and pathetic.
I hated the Orgeron hire and was vocal about it. But he brought a championship to LSU less than a year ago and in true rant fashion, everybody wants him fired for one down year in the middle of a pandemic with a bare cupboard.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 6:45 am to Housplants
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Yes, of course. The victims should be blamed.
Wow.
For the rape no?
For not reporting it to police yes
Seems simple enough
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