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bringit3210
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
Two or THREE freakin seasons? You're being sarcastic, right??


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GetmorewithLes
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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I mean if you cannot see the flashes of what they are trying to do and be somewhat excited and realize that there are better calls than what we are used to, then i do not know what to say.


In the passing game when Burrow gets a pocket, he has been money. Consider the throws, both drops and catches. Our running game has flashed enough and has been solid despite lack of top end RB.



I dont think people realize that the coaches see some fragility to our offensive game so they tend to try to play a little defensive with the ball with regard to turnovers. It is not exciting but Saban and Miles played that very storyline for a long time and racked up a lot of wins with it. Now Saban has two Ferrari's and Lamborghini in his huddles so he can afford to be a little more aggressive.

People on here want to see 600 yds of offense a game but that dont win games. The teams not named Bama and UGA ahead of us in Total Offense are Ole Miss, Mizzou, aTm, MSU, USCe, and Vandy. Which one of those teams do we aspire to be...


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TigerbaitTigerbait
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
People please ! The weakest link to an offense is the O line . Yes you can run plays to handicap for the poor line . But that only goes so far.If we had Bama’s O line , Ensminger and Burrow would look like Bill Walsh and Joe Montana . There is only so much you can do with an average offensive line .


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Stephen1979
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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It would be nice to score some points.


Yea maybe so but Eaux believes in E and we should too. Points are not a true indicator of a good offense. We are so multiple and less predictable. As others have said, just give it 3-4 years and the offense will be fully implemented. Then we can focus on scoring more points. all this talk about wanting to score points and have a more effective offense is just unreasonable


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Jack Crevalle
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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If Ensminger is unable to coordinate this offense to score around 30 points Saturday against Georgia, we'll probably lose that game as well. If that happens, I want Ensminger's resignation (as OC).




jgriffith
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-hahahahahahahahahaha love me some Sanford!!!


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Bayoufightingtiger
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
And those PAC 12 offenses would not doing anything against real defenses. Ole Miss would light up PAC 12 defenses as well and look how they can't handle a real defense.


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tubucoco
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
I agree with you man, unfortunately you have a lot of people on here that just don't get it and never will. They've gotten so used to what Les Miles has done in his 11 seasons at LSU that they think what Ensminger is doing is really a upgrade. LOL LSU's talent every season can contend for a NC, but with watching the coaches that have replaced Nick Saban since he bolted for the NFL, well, it has for me been a painful experience to watch these past 13 seasons.

I watched all the talent that Miles continued to recruit in replacement of Lord Saban, the one thing that he truly did really great in continuing the excellence in recruiting. But I would just hold my head in frustration every time I watched LSU football games. It was funny and weird watching the close games he won at TS in his first few seasons with him going bombastic on the sidelines because LSU won these games when these games should never have been close in the first place imo. LSU's great talent can blow anyone out including a Alabama if they ever really ran a wide open attacking style offense.

I mean the WR's that coach Miles had over the years along with this season's current crop can ball with any college teams talent in America. The year he had Landry and Beckham with strong arm Mettenberger passing to them should have been another NC year, instead he had Cam Cameron revert back to ball control, run, run pound conservativism offense that he loves to do. LOL That season watching them throw the ball like never before was a treat for me because I love LSU football, and it was great finally watching them put the ball up and burn teams. But I knew it wouldn't last long and ball control Miles would return with the run, run, and run some more when the WR talent that he had could burn most teams in the country. The nite he lost the NC to Alabama in the Dome, he made no adjustments at halftime as usual when he could have put the ball in the air all over Alabama. They had a great front 7 that defense, but secondary was suspect and I felt that Reuben Randle, and even though Landry and Beckham were young back then they were still Landry and Beckham. They could have spread Bama out like Jefferson claimed they practiced and abandoned what was obviously not working against Alabama. I mean just pass them silly, what did you have to lose, you couldn't even cross midfield. LOL But no he went out in the second half and did what he does best, run the RB's some more into a steel wall. LOL Man, that's crazy any other college team's coach would have made the necessary adjustments to get back in the game, but Beckham and Landry's talents were wasted like a lot other past LSU athlete's because of conservative Les. But these guys go on to the NFL and tear it up in offenses that finally allow them to showcase their skills. Ensminger imo while a lil better in the playcalling dept continues the conservative nature started by Miles.

LSU games are just frustrating to watch I don't care what anybody says, you see the obvious incredible talent, but why or how they continue to underachieve with it is all on the coaching. I know I'll get ripped for saying this, but I don't care because I almost wish a Art Briles was co HC with Aranda just so I could finally see LSU light up the score boards offensively. If a Nick Saban can change and be open to wide open attack football on offense why can't a LSU?? They continue the same BS by hiring the wrong coaches to keep a sleeping giant snoring. Okay y'all can go on ahead and downvote now people! Lol
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
Appeared to me we ran more short throws last sat than all year.


jp4lsu
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
Yes we have had some amazing talents at WR and RB over the years and currently.

LSU has never had a QB that get the ball to those WR's consistently. The yardages for WR's at LSU have been so pathetic the last 5-6 years. We had success with Metts but that is it.

I would like to see some more creativity right now but more importantly I want the OC to work with what we have in terms of the OL. They are struggling against quality DLs. So I want plays and creativity to help those guys out.

The important thing is to have a scheme that works with what you have. Our OL can't pass block for a 4 sec drop and they are struggling with Run Blocking at times as well. So the OC's job is to create better matchups with the play calling.

Spread plays, bubble screens, RB screens, quick slants, options,etc

I saw some creativity in the Auburn and subsequent games. I didn't see much in the UF game or not enough to keep drives together.

Ensminger would've won championships at Bama too. They didn't win because of Kiffin's great schemes. They won because of superior talent and controling the LoS and had QB's that could manage and not screw up. Kiffin is a good OC but many OC's couldve won titles at Bama.


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LSUfanatic60
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
Didn't bother reading 6 pages of comments and I'm sure what I am about has been said but just in case I'll say it again...

Our O line is banged up and struggling right now, which severely limits the play calling...I can tell E really wants to open up and you see flashes of it but when u can't protect long enough for plays to develop you have no choice but to run basic plays and hope for the best

Edit, suppose I could of just read the last post...but it doesn't hurt for the simpletons to read it over and over
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1badboy
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
Nitwit u have the most true name any one ever had! U are truly a nit wit !!! U really thought Canada was great ? REALLY?


tigertex1992
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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U really thought Canada was great ?


Why wouldn't he be? Because he did shifts? Because he argued with Offensive guru Orgeron?

He did better than Ensminger is doing right now. He had much less to work with in terms of a quarterback. We had all the same excuses on the offensive line.


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mikedatyger
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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LSUballsack

Your name could not be more appropriate.
Play calling is one thing. Executing the play is another. Burrow was running for his life. Charles didn't block anyone all day.
Did everyone forget we played shitty and were still in the game and had a chance to drive for a potential winning FG?
You need to take a pill and watch the UF game again. Play calling was NOT the issue.


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s-port tiger
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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E is doing a great job. Coach Eaux believes in him and that's really what matters.

This is quite an assumption that we believe in O. Maybe antique philosophy trusting antique philosophy will deliver antique results. That’s the OP point. I’m not ready to say I agree or disagree but I am more skeptical than not. The 2nd half last week reminded me a lot of the bowl game against ND. O gets scared and tenses up and gets too damn conservative. He doesn’t trust his coaches or his players. He swore he would fight this old habit but I haven’t seen it. He is too much like his predecessor. Why can’t we play with our foot on the gas for 60 minutes? We are not playing exciting football like we were led to expect.


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tubucoco
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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Our O line is banged up and struggling right now, which severely limits the play calling...I can tell E really wants to open up and you see flashes of it but when u can't protect long enough for plays to develop you have no choice but to run basic plays and hope for the best
LOL That is so much BS about the OLine being banged up and all, so you're playcalling becomes conservative because they're banged up. LOL Yeah, y'all can go on right ahead and believe that BS. LSU threw the ball successfully against Florida, and moved the ball well early on, they're big WR's Anderson and Sullivan were mismatches against Florida DB's. They proved that early in catching balls downfield on the opening drive to go up 7-0, and then comes the second drive that was killed by a TO to Florida because Burrow couldn't feel the pressure coming on from behind him. He got easily stripped sacked of the ball stopping what could have been another TD to go up 14-0 and putting Florida in a hole. Yeah, some of those guys are bad on the OLine and will get better with more game experience, but I mean they were doing an adequately enough job for Burrow to complete the plays called. Problem is to me anyways is for Burrow to be a coaches son you would think he understands all of the nuances of game. He holds the ball to long waiting for a WR to come open, and when he can't find one open he doesn't get rid of it by throwing it away and is really slow in deciding to run for a first down in getting himself sacked from behind.

Ensminger has him run out the spread sometimes when I don't think that's a strong suit for him, he's slow and takes punishing hits instead sliding down. Yeah, I know he broke off a few runs this season, but those runs just caught the opposing teams D off guard, most of the time he was getting crushed at the line by hard hits when trying to take off and run. I think Lowell Narcisse would have been soo much better at that had he stayed because he's built for it and can really run like a RB, but he is a true QB too because of well he can throw a football.

Hated to see that kid go because he has so much upside, if he chooses a Auburn or whomever, he'll be or should be a really good, explosive QB out of the RPO spread. But Ensminger's playcalling has nothing to do with the OLine imo, he would be calling the same shite if they were all completely healthy. He lied about LSU having a RPO wide open attacking style offense, telling fans I guess what they wanted to hear. Instead, he is running a offense with some pro style mixed in with the spread with a no huddle sometimes or whatever the hell he feels like calling sometimes like the Wildcat. LOL But the offense still relies on the run of course I don't care whatever he says or people say.
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TigersJump
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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2 or 3? He needs AT LEAST 5. We're incorporating elements from: 
-The Saints 
-The Rams 
-80's era 49ers 
-early-2000s USC 
-early 90s UGA 


You're a Les fan, so were you wanting to give Les 20 more years to get it right? Dimentia and a bump on the head would have to happen for any change in that skull.


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atltiger6487
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
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So is Clemson, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Ohio State and Florida State

The difference is the schools I mentioned have all won a national title in the last 10 years
except Georgia


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PDgirl
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
True- but E needs to update some plays.


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PDgirl
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re: Tired of our old school playcalling
Spot on, spot on.


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