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Posted on 10/8/12 at 4:59 pm to The Egg
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Tidbit from Bryan Lazare
Stopped reading right there.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:00 pm to ZTiger87
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You have to earn your coach's trust. Turning the ball over multiple times in the redzone is not how you do that.
But how does one do that? So now you're ok with Met being a pariah QB for the rest of his career?
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:08 pm to Mo Jeaux
Anybody figured out after all these years that our QB problems are systemic and not with Mett?
DUH!!!!!
DUH!!!!!
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:13 pm to BilJ
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That is quite simply retarded
Well, retarded as it may be. I have no doubt it's true.
Last year, Saban felt the same way with McCarron the first meeting. What did he do after McCarron hadn't had any success against us, including Mo's pick that led to tying FG?
He asked Marquis Maze to throw the ball downfield, with worse results than what we saw with Magee. The next time McCarron dropped back, he took a sack that may have cost them the game.
I'm far from defending Miles here. With Saban, you knew there was attention to detail, and if you were beat, you at least felt like he put your team in the best position to win.
It is impossible to have that feeling for Miles, when he continuously stays so damn uncoordinated with the simplest of tasks. He doesn't breed confidence with his lack of management skills. Aside from his continous butchering of use of the clock, he can't even make sure of personnel with his play calls. He passes it off as a headset problem, Mettenberger told it like it was.
There's a long history of that shite.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:17 pm to The Egg
Coach Miles has little confidence in his QBs and then doesn't let them do anything to gain confidence. Since 1998, we have eliminated the middle of the field as an option for our QBs to throw because he is scared of the interception. Our QBs regress instead of progress because Miles makes them so tight that they have to wait until a WR is wide open before they will throw.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:17 pm to The Egg
Isn't this the same QB that was getting raves about ball placement and him throwing where ONLY our receivers could catch it (Reid quote)??
I haven't given up on Mett.......but we need changes to our philosophy on O.
quick
I haven't given up on Mett.......but we need changes to our philosophy on O.
quick
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:23 pm to The Egg
Not sure I buy it but it's pretty obvious to me that the staff doesn't trust Mett completely. The playcalling and route design is way too simplistic and safe to convey confidence. That is the frustrating part to me. I see worse teams, with worse staffs, younger QBs and worse talent, throwing the ball all over the field and allow their QB to either win it or lose it. At some point you'd think the realization that what we do isn't good enough now and that they need to just say frick it and see what happens. It's better to lose having emptied the tank than to lose playing sheltered. If they let Mett go and just air it out and he happens to throw 3-4 picks, I can live with that. At least we would have tried. The basic, simple, predictable offense we currently run is not good enough and is hindering the potential of this team. Just say frick it and see what happens. Can't be worse than what we have now.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:26 pm to Mo Jeaux
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But how does one do that?
By not turning the ball over in the redzone multiple times...
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So now you're ok with Met being a pariah QB for the rest of his career?
I would prefer we have a great offense. I don't care about who is playing where.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:27 pm to ZTiger87
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You have to earn your coach's trust. Turning the ball over multiple times in the redzone is not how you do that.
Shutting the QB down in the RZ is no way to let him earn your trust.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:28 pm to The Egg
Wait, why no link?
It seems kind of weird to say they trust him to throw a pass on one down but not on the next.
It seems kind of weird to say they trust him to throw a pass on one down but not on the next.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:30 pm to Methuselah
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It seems kind of weird to say they trust him to throw a pass on one down but not on the next.
Yeah, probably more to it than what it appears.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:32 pm to The Egg
"Equipment problems" per Miles on Saturday night....
Head phones weren't working.....
Head phones weren't working.....
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Shutting the QB down in the RZ is no way to let him earn your trust.
They let him throw in the redzone. Did they run a risky play? No. Are they going to spread it out and trust Mett to make a quick, on target throw? Probably not. They aren't going to completely shut him down there, but they aren't going to have a lot of confidence in him until he shows he can execute there.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:34 pm to AlxTgr
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Meh, Mett has not been exactly great there, and the jump has worked before. Had the receiver been open we would still be talking about how great of a call it was.
There was even a thread earlier in the week asking what quarter the annual jump pass would be thrown in.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:38 pm to The Egg
They need to let him go vertical more often. He threw 2 bombs saturday. One was a 60 yarder to OBJ who fumbled it and the 2nd was another one to OBJ but he got bumped off the route by the corner.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:40 pm to ZTiger87
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It was a 2 receiver route but the FB got tackled on his way out of the backfield.
The FB was Neighbors, who is not much of an athlete or legitmate receiver. It did not give the QB much of a chance for success.
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Right. I'm sure they instructed him to turn it over in the redzone multiple times this year.
So shut him down from making any mistakes and thus shut down the offense. Good call.
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Lee was really good in the redzone. Even in his FR year. So I guess you are right about Mett not being Lee.
I liked the effort and spirit of Jarrett Lee. Mett has played in so many games for you to set in stone that Lee is better than Mett in the redzone.
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You have to earn your coach's trust. Turning the ball over multiple times in the redzone is not how you do that.
Then give him a chance to earn trust in games where the offense must both score and even take a chance or two to have any success.
You can pretend this is a presidential debate to make your points against Mettenberger. But the facts are, this offense is limited and lacks creativity. It is - and had been - an embarassment for a Top 5 program. Out of the elite teams, the Tigers have had the worst offense in both form and function for some time now. LSU lacks receivers this year? Previous crap offenses scared off of talent like Justin Hunter and Mike Davis. I could go on.
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:44 pm to Jwho77
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LSU lacks receivers this year? Previous crap offenses scared off of talent like Justin Hunter and Mike Davis
Totally off-base. These guys were both being recruited by D J McCarthy and DJ got the axe. If D J stays, we have both guys for certain...
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:45 pm to The Egg
If the OP quote is accurate then I can help but ask why were we still throwing the ball to OBJ after the fumble?
Posted on 10/8/12 at 5:46 pm to mpwilging
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If D J stays, we have both guys for certain...
No one can know for certain. Let's not underrate what happened when those guys re-evaluated the options.
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