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re: Throwing off Game 1 is not a new concept.

Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5763 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:19 pm to
Whoever the guy was who first came up with the term "throwing off" or "pitching off" has to be a pretty smug little fella this time of year.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6230 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:26 pm to
And won the whole dam shiboozal
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
33676 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Just because we did it in 2023 doesn’t mean we have to do it again


Yea I mean why would Jay follow that formula? Nothing good came from that season…… oh wait.
Posted by vtowntigah
Member since Oct 2016
92 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:42 pm to
I don’t think either decision is bad. If you throw 1a or 1b against UALR, and they go deep into the game, it’s a matter of saving a bullpen. You then have all arms available for the winners game bracket. You assume Eyanson could go 7+ against DBU, then you have your whole bullpen for Game 3 and the if necessary game.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
17027 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:45 pm to
If your top two pitchers are truly 1A and 1B with little-to-no performance drop off between them, then I'd hold the best lefty/righty lineup matchup for probable game 2, which would be a much more difficult game (Dallas Baptist).

Not sure what the best matchup is from these two pitchers for DBU, but that's the strategy I'd take.


ETA:

If you have a clear #1 with a fairly big dropoff to #2, I throw them first to get in the winners bracket.

This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 2:46 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
17027 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Why wouldn’t you throw an ace when our bats have scored like no runs the last 2 games against SEC competition.



Who is the ace? I know who will be a higher draft pick, but is Anderson really out-performing Eyanson to the point he's our clear ace?

(couldn't find league only stats, so this is all games)

Anderson -
W/L: 8-1
ERA: 3.54
RA9: 3.64
WHIP: 1.079
HR: 14
SO9: 14.7
BB9: 2.4
SO/W: 6.04
IP/PGS: 5.9 (innings pitched per game started)

Eyanson -
W/L: 9-2
ERA: 2.77
RA9: 3.09
WHIP: 1.150
HR: 4
SO9: 13.3
BB9: 3.3
SO/W: 4.03
IP/PGS: 6.01


Anderson has better strikeout/walk numbers, but Eyanson can grind through innings and has allowed fewer runs and home runs.

Again, I would figure out who matches up best against Dallas Baptist lefty/righty lineup splits, and pitch the other guy in game 1.

Not a hill I'll die on though, Jay obviously knows what is best.



Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1537 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:02 pm to
Since winning against Little Rock seems to be all but a foregone conclusion if I was Jay I would throw whichever one of our aces he feels has the best chance of pitching a complete game which is probably Anderson. While getting into and staying in the winners side of the bracket is important and I feel confident either one of our aces is more than a match for whoever we get game 2 the potential to save pitching through game 1 provides an opportunity for a nice little insurance policy if game 2 doesn't go our way for whatever reason.
Posted by TigerMonkey7
Member since Jul 2021
3227 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:02 pm to
It will be Eyanson against UALR imo.
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
1179 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:38 pm to
Doesn’t matter who we pitch. If this team can’t hit the ball or even come close to it it’s very hard to win scoring 0 runs on 2 hits.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18070 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Yea I mean why would Jay follow that formula? Nothing good came from that season…… oh wait.


Suboptimal decisions have positive outcomes all the time
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3284 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:50 pm to
So give us your pitching game plan since you are so smart and know what’s best over a national champion coach.

Dumbass
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
18332 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 3:51 pm to
So if LSU goes out in the bottom of the 1st and puts up a 10 spot do you just throw your mid week guys after AE/Kade throw 1 inning?
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
2401 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:03 pm to
If we had a a better 3rd. Everyone so inconsistent
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11423 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:07 pm to
It’s not that it’s the only viable option. Jay has shown his philosophy on the matter. Win game 1 at all cost. That means pitching your Ace! Maybe he will do something different this year but I’m not holding my breath.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172364 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 4:52 pm to
Not use Kade against the shitty 4 seed that lsu has no business losing to
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
35663 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:01 pm to
I'll trust Jay not some buffoon on a message board.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
6599 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:25 pm to
The best situation when you're playing like the 230th ranked team, then likely the team with 14th highest CWS title odds DBU, higher than a handful of 1 seed CWS title odds, the very highest 2 seed CWS title odds, is that you pitch your better ones 2nd and 3rd game, and not 1st.

In the 0.1% chance lose game 1, I'd still stand behind JJ because:

230th best team in CB
vs
14th best team in CB

It's called being smart.

LSU drew one of the worst regionals, if not the worst, in my opinion. 6th seed should play 27th best team, not 14th. 33-6=27.
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9807 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

LSU drew one of the worst regionals, if not the worst, in my opinion. 6th seed should play 27th best team, not 14th. 33-6=27.


after 16, they don’t really rank them like that.
never have.

go look at the 3 & 4 seeds Vandy drew as the #1 overall seed.
brutal compared to what we got.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
6599 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:34 pm to
You want to waste the #3 draft pick against a team that was ranked 230th in rankings, but pitch a worse pitcher against a team that has the 14th highest odds to win the CWS? and then an even worse pitcher to likely play again the 14th highest CWS title odds team again?

That 14th highest CWS title odds is seen by the smartest book setters as more likely to win the CWS than a handful of 1 seeds and has the best odds of any 2 seed, and we save our worst starting pitchers for them?

You save your pitchers for the 14th highest CWS title odds, and you pitch your 3rd vs the 230th ranked UALR.

In the 0.1% chance we lose, then that's how it plays out. Because there's a whole hell of a lot higher chance than 0.1% chance that you lose with your 2nd and 3rd vs DBU, more. Exponentially higher than 0.1%.

When you're looking at 0.1% chance of loss vs maybe 30-35% chance loss. You go with your aces on the 30-35% chance of loss.
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9807 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

Because there's a whole hell of a lot higher chance than 0.1% chance that you lose with your 2nd and 3rd vs DBU, more. Exponentially higher than 0.1%.


agreed it’s higher than 0.1%
but we’ve already beat them in their home town throwing midweek guys.

now we’re most likely playing them at The Box, at night, with either Anderson or Eyanson on Saturday.



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