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Those in the know - what constitutes cause?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 6:58 am
Posted on 12/8/20 at 6:58 am
We’ve heard that potential Title IX violations if linked to the HC could constitute cause. What other things would constitute cause? Would losing more than a dozen key players, many important for the future of the team constitute cause? It seems like on field performance is not enough. However, would losing a critical mass of the team constitute cause?
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:05 am to Manswers
I’m glad you asked this because I certainly don’t understand.
Sure seems to me that there’s plenty of dam cause to fire quite a few people without paying them a dime.
But apparently football coaching isn’t like the rest of the real world. They get paid MILLIONS and then get pampered and can’t get rid of them when they SUCK at their job. Unbelievable. To me that’s the only cause you should need, Coach O has completely SUCKED at his job this year. And honestly, looking at our offensive line and linebacker corps, he hasn’t been outstanding at any point of his time as HC. And for millions of dollars, you better be freaking outstanding. He didn’t win no NC. His coaches and players did. He would’ve been standing in the side lines clapping his arse off regardless what happened on the field.
Sure seems to me that there’s plenty of dam cause to fire quite a few people without paying them a dime.
But apparently football coaching isn’t like the rest of the real world. They get paid MILLIONS and then get pampered and can’t get rid of them when they SUCK at their job. Unbelievable. To me that’s the only cause you should need, Coach O has completely SUCKED at his job this year. And honestly, looking at our offensive line and linebacker corps, he hasn’t been outstanding at any point of his time as HC. And for millions of dollars, you better be freaking outstanding. He didn’t win no NC. His coaches and players did. He would’ve been standing in the side lines clapping his arse off regardless what happened on the field.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:11 am to Manswers
Losing games and players not cause
Failing to execute your duty in regards to title ix is cause
Probably a morality and cheating clause as well
Failing to execute your duty in regards to title ix is cause
Probably a morality and cheating clause as well
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:12 am to Bayoubengal205
Poor performance is not “cause”.
It requires some material departure from rules, Regs and laws, or dishonesty or some type of pernicious, intentional act.
The only potential “cause” I am aware of deals with O’s role in the Title IX investigation, and very little is known about that.
It requires some material departure from rules, Regs and laws, or dishonesty or some type of pernicious, intentional act.
The only potential “cause” I am aware of deals with O’s role in the Title IX investigation, and very little is known about that.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:17 am to thelawnwranglers
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Losing games and players not cause
Losing games definitely not cause. Losing players most likely not cause unless tied to something illegal or that is breaking rules that involves him directly. Nothing that we know poInts that way but if so it could be cause.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:18 am to Manswers
didn't he have a minor recruiting violation that is being looked at with the rest of the stuff the independent board is looking at. Could that be used as cause?
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:19 am to nitwit
Well I’m not going to disagree with you, as I’m sure you’re right.
But I think that’s the biggest load of shite I’ve ever heard. All because it’s a contract am I right?
These contracts aught to have “if you suck arse, we can fire you without paying you RIDICULOUS amounts of money” somewhere in there.
But I think that’s the biggest load of shite I’ve ever heard. All because it’s a contract am I right?
These contracts aught to have “if you suck arse, we can fire you without paying you RIDICULOUS amounts of money” somewhere in there.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:20 am to Manswers
The contract itself would have a section that specifically defines cause.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:21 am to Bayoubengal205
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Sure seems to me that there’s plenty of dam cause to fire quite a few people without paying them a dime.
But apparently football coaching isn’t like the rest of the real world. They get paid MILLIONS and then get pampered and can’t get rid of them when they SUCK at their job. Unbelievable.
Anybody, not just football coaches, that are contract workers cannot be released for poor performance without the entire contract being paid out, unless there is some sort of buyout clause. Making a bad hire is not an excuse for you not to pay.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:21 am to Manswers
The title nine allegations would be enough. Also remember we had to give up a few scholarships due to some recruiting violations.
Both could prove to be enough cause to terminate the contract
But let’s be honest. LSU will fire any coach they want using the causes I just spelled out. And then everyone will settle for a partial payment of the buy out in court
Both could prove to be enough cause to terminate the contract
But let’s be honest. LSU will fire any coach they want using the causes I just spelled out. And then everyone will settle for a partial payment of the buy out in court
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:23 am to Manswers
Go read his contract. It's publicly available.
Posted on 12/8/20 at 7:24 am to Bayoubengal205
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Well I’m not going to disagree with you, as I’m sure you’re right.
But I think that’s the biggest load of shite I’ve ever heard. All because it’s a contract am I right?
These contracts aught to have “if you suck arse, we can fire you without paying you RIDICULOUS amounts of money” somewhere in there.
A contract is a two-way street. The school hired a certain coach and that coach’s agent negotiated a multi-year deal. It’s on the school to negotiate an exit clause for poor performance if they want one...before it’s signed.
You don’t get to cancel multi-year contracts because you change your mind based on something not in the contract.
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