This why I think LSU fans have grown soft.

Yaw, yaw! You’re a real fan! It’s football! Supposed to be loud! I bet you played middle school football too.

Club and suite sections don’t cause the apathy. Has nothing to do with the lower bowl emptying out early. Traffic, HDTV, and LSUs refusal to let fans sell ticket rights has everything to do with it.

Don’t agree....have sat in club and suites nearly exclusively for the last few years and it was rocking in those areas! Like scream at the top of your lungs until your blue in the face and bang on the seat in front of you kind of rocking.

There are many many factors, but I think the conveniences vs. annoyances, as you stated, is the biggest. At one point in my life I had just enough money and lived close enough where I would go to a game anytime over watching it on Jefferson Pilot. Things change.

Money vs. Demographic- many big earners have moved a considerable distance, over time, away from BR (myself included)

Money vs. Demographic- is there enough money still in the area to overcome the cheaper conveniences.

Les Effect- (yes, fully aware people will take exception to this). Has nothing to do with wins/losses. Have to admit, we knew what we'd get with a Les game. For some (myself included) that was perfectly fine. For a whole group of people new always equals better, and they wanted to see 40mins of Hell on grass. Personally I get my rocks off good D and watching an OG pancake some undersized Ole Miss LB on a pull.

Other Sports? This is not just an LSU problem. Has other sports rising in the 90's started to affect fanbases? I don't think that it's a coincidence that rise of the soccor mom's immediately preceded this. The kids of those "football is too violent" moms are now in their first 5 years of being an alumni (and students). The "we live football" generation are now middle-management (or better) in Houston and Atlanta. So the infatuation of those in-place may be lessened.

Students? Think it's a pain in the arse on us? Imagine being in architecture and trying to get to your lab on a Sat with books, easel, and other various shite. Greeks occupy the backbone of the student fanbase at games. I say double the student seating and leave Greeks out of the expansion. Take that seating from aftermarket sellers of season tickets. I'm in this age group, so include me. We get enough from SECN and SEC distributions to take the contribution hit. The students can make, or break, the overall atmosphere. I say give us more, not less.

ETA: and for some reason everybody thinks your Ted Bundy evil if you "hate". frick that. Every week, I HATE our opponent. The atmosphere should reflect that. Respect is for after the game... if you lose. Taunting is for if you win. Hate should precede both. So what if the DEKEs have a "bad" sign hastily painted on a bed sheet. So what if someone gets offended by getting Tigerbaited. Why should we give a frick if there's bulletin board material. Hell, we're from Louisiana, we're always different anyway- go for it.

SWEET MELT!

Dilly! Dilly!

the football game experience has completely changed since I was a student. people make a lot more money now and it's all about comforts if you can afford it. nfl and college.

hell, I have tailgated with the president of a major Louisiana company out of the trunk of his car. his money and prestige got him a parking spot right next to the stadium near the old jet and that was it. we really had a great time. there were no suites. the guy had season tickets near the 50 yd line about half way up but that's about as good as it got. the first upper deck wasn't even planed and I don't think TAF even existed. there was another booster club but it was pretty small and basically existed to supplement the HC's salary. LSU could not pay the coach more than the governor and they added to Mac's salary. I can't remember his total pay but it was just a few hundred k and that included his pay for the tv show also.

yes, the fans have grown soft. they are also older as many of the younger fans have been priced out of the market. the final "product" 30-50 years from now will be very different. i think college football is peaking or already has and expect the sport to gradually decline in popularity

i honestly think the experience 50 years ago was better. but maybe some of that was my age then.

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Start a lottery and draw for the season tickets. Cut the number of season ticket holders and sell with price based on demand, based on the opponent. Get some fans into the stadium who currenly can only buy shite seats, if at all. Get as many students as possible into the stadium and give them decent seats unless they are Greeks then stick them out of the way since they will be leaving early. The intended purpose of football was to entertain the students but the NCAA and the TAF are more concerned with dollars

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i do not doubt that some of your ideas will be adopted one day. that is, if financial sanity ever returns to college football. i like the idea of pricing based on the competition and cutting the number of season ticket holders. however, one day i expect the market will handle that.

You can't get hard without victory

Many factors but espn and ticket prices are the 2 main reasons.