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re: This is why Alabama OL is so much better than LSU's

Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Beached Tiger
Member since Aug 2007
720 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:36 pm to
Damn, I bet the coaches didn't know this! Thanks for this bit of info that none of us knew.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:37 pm to
Arik Gilbert was the only 5* TE in history
So what’s your point ?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60761 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:39 pm to
Cool
Posted by Tiger Don 318
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
759 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:40 pm to
When your starting LT is Cam Wire and you have no true left tackles behind him says alot about where we are. Exactly why Will Campbell will be starting at LT as a True freshmen
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17484 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:40 pm to
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We will never recruit on that level. I have been following recruiting since the 80's. We can get a great out of state lineman on occasion, but if Louisiana does not produce OL we will recruit that position insufficiently in numbers. That has been true for 40 years.
This is true- to realistically attain that level of recruiting, no matter how much "extracurricular" you do (because the competition will match you) we have to have a better home grown crop.

I see the issue partially resolved (mostly?) by several schools, led by LSU, taking the initiative and educating HS coaches. A big reason we lack the super-crop of instate OL is their level of training at the HS level. We need better coaches at the high schools.

When we put out bumper crops of DL but not OL genetics, nutrition, etc. do not explain it.

Yes- when there's 5*'s in state we need to do a better job of keeping them in state. But that's no guarantee. When supply is low and you can't guarantee you are first to the trough you do what you can to increase that supply.

We lack the big population centers to have a huge number of huge schools. Yes we have some "go to" schools. But the number of them compared to say FL or TX is quite small. So without those numerous, massive ISDs and the higher quality of coaching to rely on we have to improve the coaching, hence training, and thus supply of OL that you can get SEC ready in 2 years (or less).
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:42 pm to
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"The fraudulence of the left's concern about poverty is exposed by their utter lack of interest in ways of increasing the nation's wealth." Thomas Sewell.
Uh, that's SOWELL my man.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7128 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:43 pm to
I think Coach O’s exact wording after his first loss to Bama was, “we need lineman.”
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31558 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:44 pm to
Why don’t you call CEO and tell him this huge mystery you’ve solved.

Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3455 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:50 pm to
So true. Nice post.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:59 pm to
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I see the issue partially resolved (mostly?) by several schools, led by LSU, taking the initiative and educating HS coaches. A big reason we lack the super-crop of instate OL is their level of training at the HS level. We need better coaches at the high schools.
Have you made this point before? You are spot on. We need Coach's Camps/Clinics left and right and maybe we find a kid or two a year that has Bordelon's work ethic and some natural talent.
Seems to me having Coach Davis in the fold---being from BR is part of it---should provide continuity in techniques that won't be changed because he's heading somewhere else in 3 or 4 years.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
106193 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:00 pm to
Saban had a tough time recruiting top OLmen when he was here
Guess he figured it out
Posted by JTA1985
Member since Feb 2012
3456 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:00 pm to
How do you explain Arkansas’s o-line being better than ours a lot of the time.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59429 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:01 pm to
O inherited Miles’ cluster frick along the offensive line. Miles’ opinion that the Oline was positionless led to holes at key spots. But Orgeron is not blameless, the hiring of Cregg was a mistake so now we’re behind on the development in the Orgeron era. Hopefully we’ve got it right this time and can start to build it correctly.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13259 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:05 pm to
Light years apart? Thats ridiculous. How do you explain LSU kicking everyones arse in 2019, including bama then? We had a great unit of offensive linemen that worked hard during their time here and developed themselves into the best line in america and won an award for doing so.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:06 pm to
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Saban knows it begins and ends in the trenches


Anyone with even a shrewd of college football knowledge knows this.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59396 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:07 pm to
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I'll call coach and tell him to start recruiting better players than Bama. Great thinking!



Life can be so simple
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
2157 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:09 pm to
Being brutally honest here. The "gap" will only widen until Satan retires. Its just that simple. As long as we have the GOAT coaching/recruiting in the same division we will have to take whatever scraps he left behind. 2019 showed that all we need is 5 guys that gel together not 5 guys that were 5 stars coming out of high school.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13259 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:15 pm to
Yep.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10282 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:16 pm to
Was that the secret to winning it all in 2019?
Posted by AvidLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
758 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:18 pm to
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our O Line has as much talent as Bama. I aint scared

I happen to agree with you. One of few. Hang in there. Bama is not unbeatable. We gonna git ‘em this year and I think we beat ‘em more than they beat us over the next ten yrs. The young people on this board are not stupid, they just don’t have enough LSU football under their belt to know better.
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