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Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:36 pm to blackjackjackson
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REMEMBER: THE DEMONCRATS are mostly those scientist, liberal, educated, college, fake news fear mongers!
Electrical Engineer here. I’m conservative.
About 35% of democrat votes come from poor minorities who want more stuff. Very highly educated folks.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:38 pm to Tiger_Style
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Maybe less Fox News and more listening to people who now better than you.
I now better than you, at least.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:41 pm to Penrod
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I now better than you, at least.
saved
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:43 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Now if I was 85 years old and was on oxygen, I would probably be boarded up in my house... the general population is not really at risk.
They are still at a risk to be carriers, you dumb frick.
Why is this such a hard concept to grasp? It isn't just about "I can survive this, no problem". It's about giving it to someone who might not.
But they're old and sickly, so who gives a frick...
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:43 pm to LSUChicageaux
Please take care of yourself....and each other
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:45 pm to sicboy
Yes, that is why you isolate the elderly not the general population dumb arse.
Literally, what do you guys do... drink swamp water.
How exactly do you think you get food at Walmart? You don't shutdown the fricking supply change to the credit/debt market over these numbers.
Literally, what do you guys do... drink swamp water.
How exactly do you think you get food at Walmart? You don't shutdown the fricking supply change to the credit/debt market over these numbers.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:47 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
and lets forget the issue of clogging the hospitals with cases because like Italy, we can't stop our lives, another problem you keep ignoring
some of you are too dumb to function
some of you are too dumb to function
Posted on 3/16/20 at 2:48 pm to sicboy
You isolate the old, who said it isn't our problem... keep drinking swamp water. Hey, just wait until your ATM card stops working, keep it up with this stupid stuff. Oh you're the smart one of the group that somehow thinks this stuff works on magic, and food just shows up at Walmart when everyone is sitting at home.
Keep doubling down on stupid.
Update: S&P500 down 11%... keep it up guys. Bravo.
There is no/off switch to the credit/debt market, its not magic.
Keep doubling down on stupid.
Update: S&P500 down 11%... keep it up guys. Bravo.
There is no/off switch to the credit/debt market, its not magic.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:21 pm to nitwit
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Yeah, I think some people are more concerned about outcomes for humans than for companies
Companies are owned by humans. Companies provide your food. Companies provide your electricity. Companies provide your health care. Companies provide the internet you are browsing.
I’m not sure what the right amount of social distancing, and econmoic dislocation is, but you are way off with the above comment.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:27 pm to Penrod
Penrod, if you do not understand that concept by now, it is far beyond my power to help you understand it.
Even if you believe "corporations are people, too".
Even if you believe "corporations are people, too".
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:27 pm to sicboy
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I now better than you, at least.
saved
Saved for when they get rid of the “K”?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 3:31 pm to nitwit
I don't believe corporations are people, in some ways I hate corporationism (or whatever you want to call it) but no way the masses get food or basic supplies without them at this point.
Either way the engine of enterprise has to continue to get what people are getting now. I have no idea why anyone would want to shut that down to save a few people, when the alternative course is much much worse.
Either way the engine of enterprise has to continue to get what people are getting now. I have no idea why anyone would want to shut that down to save a few people, when the alternative course is much much worse.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:09 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Yeah, but what do you do when it comes back? And there is no supplies that come in, you think this is going to be solved in 4 weeks? LOL Life does not stop because people are at home, that is not how the economy works, you just don't turn it on and off like a switch. So, you save this for the dooms day type situation.
Stock market will have to be shut down next, than the banks, than how do propose everything works? Let me see all those people in Baton Rouge are going to grow crops in their front yard?
The hospital runs off a credit/debt system, close the credit/debt system... hospital disappears. You don't shut down the freaking world because people get sick and some die, that's life... this will make things very bad. Basically, the nutjobs pop the bubble with a hand grenade.
How do you think people get food and how do you think the hospital gets supplies?
This is pretty easy. We don’t need the virus to go away. We need it to slow down. We can care for the virus. We can not care for the amount that will bombard the health system if this shite continues. If we continue on the path of Italy we are fricked. If we can flatten the curve and keep it consistent with where we are now we will make it. Stressed as frick but will make it. We need to slow the spread of the disease so that it either burns out or we get a vaccine to fight the virus. They haven’t said to shut the world down. The world has been asked socially limit running into each other and to stay home as much as possible. The shut down is bc idiots like you would never listen to this shite and just continue partying in the quarter.
Do me a favor and go walk into one of the intensive care units in New Orleans or the Ed’s that are seeing double their normal volume. Maybe you will get it then, maybe you won’t.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:17 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
The virus will be back, trying to stop the spread at this point is pretty worthless. You simply isolate the elderly and sick, and give them proper medical attention - as it looks like South Korea has done successful. The death rates are basically nothing meaning in context to the flu once the elderly/sick are proper treated see South Korea numbers.
They are quite on their way... layoffs will be coming in mass that will make 2008-2010 look like the glory days. We are talking mega-mass layoffs and bankruptcies... and no doubt the credit/debt system is already buckling... to be honest, I'm not sure its even salvageable at this point - massive damage done and for no real good reason... data is already available.
You don't shut down the system, you isolate the few that mostly likely to be damaged i.e. elderly and sick. A good portion of the population will get it and never know.... they don't even show any symptoms.
If I were over 65 I would probably take my chances with the flu, if I were under 60 I would probably take the corona... most people under 20-25 won't even know they got it.
This thing has been an over reaction and I would say for some desired purpose.... economically this is a disaster and for no real reason.
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They haven’t said to shut the world down.
They are quite on their way... layoffs will be coming in mass that will make 2008-2010 look like the glory days. We are talking mega-mass layoffs and bankruptcies... and no doubt the credit/debt system is already buckling... to be honest, I'm not sure its even salvageable at this point - massive damage done and for no real good reason... data is already available.
You don't shut down the system, you isolate the few that mostly likely to be damaged i.e. elderly and sick. A good portion of the population will get it and never know.... they don't even show any symptoms.
If I were over 65 I would probably take my chances with the flu, if I were under 60 I would probably take the corona... most people under 20-25 won't even know they got it.
This thing has been an over reaction and I would say for some desired purpose.... economically this is a disaster and for no real reason.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:24 pm to memphis tiger
This is pretty virulent
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:30 pm to VOR
Actually its not, some people don't know even they have it, if you are 70+ yes. The vast majority of people, no symptoms or very few... if you have a pre-existing condition and or elderly meaning 70+, especially 80+ than that is a different matter.. .worse than the flu if you don't get proper medical treatment.
South Korea had a lower fatality rate. We have data.
LINK
LOL
Don't get me wrong, if I was 80+ I wouldn't be answering the door.
You've been fooled bro. (rick rolled)
South Korea had a lower fatality rate. We have data.
LINK
LOL
Don't get me wrong, if I was 80+ I wouldn't be answering the door.
You've been fooled bro. (rick rolled)
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:35 pm to Penrod
quote:companies, especially large ones, provide nearly everything we own, eat, or use. I've never understood the people who think corporations are "evil." A corporate is merely a group of people that provide a product or service. Yes, they want a profit - that's what drives our economy and is responsible for a system of such prosperity and innovation.
Companies are owned by humans. Companies provide your food. Companies provide your electricity. Companies provide your health care. Companies provide the internet you are browsing.
I’m not sure what the right amount of social distancing, and econmoic dislocation is, but you are way off with the above comment.
Are there some heartless people that run some corporations? Sure. But most are decent people, trying to provide a quality product or service at a fair price. And now with social media, corporations are under a microscope, for better or worse.
And, oh by the way, corporations employ many tens of millions of people.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:36 pm to nitwit
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Penrod, if you do not understand that concept by now, it is far beyond my power to help you understand it.
Even if you believe "corporations are people, too".
I don’t understand your point in this post.
BTW, the problem with you and the others arguing over this is that you all think the other is “too dumb to live” or “drinks swampwater”. The truth of the matter is this:
1. We need to make sure that we don’t get hit by a total-active-case number that is higher than we can handle.
2. We can’t lockdown the country, as is now being mandated in more and more places, for very long. Maybe two or three weeks max. We have probably overreacted and done ourselves unnecessary economic harm.
3. We don’t know what amount of social distancing will suffice, because we don’t yet have the testing capacity.
4. What the US is doing now is overreacting to make certain that we don’t get swamped. In two or three weeks we will go back to work. At that point the virus will start spreading faster, but the interregnum will allow us to increase our health care facilities and testing.
5. We will aim for what S Korea has now.
Look at the active cases graph. It’s flat
6. If we maintain a similar flat line of active cases the virus will die when the number of people with immunity reaches a critical point.
Hopefully the summer gives us a respite that allows us to prepare for a high caseload.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 4:42 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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You simply isolate the elderly and sick, and give them proper medical attention - as it looks like South Korea has done successful.
South Korea banned all large public gatherings including sporting events, concerts, etc. They did not just isolate the elderly. They basically did everything we have done so far. Now, we are starting to take steps that they didn’t. I think that is a mistake.
S Korea did not close down all the non-essential businesses, as it looks like we are about to do. In fact, the small outbreak they had this week was from a close-quarters call center in which 120 people worked.
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