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Madking
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
Again those stats have nothing to do with individual calls. That’s a total straw man argument, watch the game again.


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Madking
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
“and don't you think, if this was true, that it would leak out, because there would be multiple sets of referrees in on the plot and direction coming from above). “


There’s literally a book about it written by a ref who participated in these things. You can’t be this naive.
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mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
Three no calls on Thomas drives really hurts. The one they called a charge was beyond ridiculous. Anyway.


atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
13938 posts

re: This game was so fixed WTF
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Three no calls on Thomas drives really hurts. The one they called a charge was beyond ridiculous. Anyway.
I agree that the charge call was very weak (should've been a no-call) but the others were because Cam initiates contact by jumping into the defender, and some refs don't call that, especially when the defender stays vertical.


antibarner
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Member since Oct 2009
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
If Bama plays them it will be an interesting matchup. The Neanderthal they have inside could be a problem but our 5s can shoot from 3 and if he parks in the paint we might blow them out of the gym before they know what hit them.

Bama is as quick as LSU and much deeper, with more weapons. If they are hitting threes Alley Oop will have to come out and our guards are much quicker than theirs, their bigs won't be able to help.
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Tigerik
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Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
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And, when a player steps out of bounds first, and a foul follows....call that horse crap


Just this one incident of a no call out of bounds, caused a turnover to vanish, and an LSU possession, gave LSU another foul, and also gave UM points in the ensuing possession. A triple whammy.

The no calls on Cam Thomas all night were almost contrived. Hey they were deeper, and played with a lot of enthusiasm, but a lot of the reason they were able to regain momentum is that LSU didn’t have a larger lead (no calls on Thomas) and the game stoppage kept it form becoming a route when it very well could have early with the fast pace LSU was playing at.

Of course we could have also run out of steam with a smaller bench. Also Brown was fouling all night and he was the guy that gave them juice. He could have easily fouled out.


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Madking
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Member since Apr 2016
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
You’re right about the principal of verticality but that isn’t what happened. Cam was mugged twice right at the rim and on the last drive the defender came across his body and hit him mid arm. He got him with the body and on the arm. None of those 4 calls were made and when you contrast that to the 2 Brown calls and the easily seeable Watford call it’s pretty clear what was happening. Plus you have to consider the timing of calls and that they came in bunches during those times. Everytime we made a run calls were made to end it. These refs have officiated hundreds if not thousands of games and in real time up close those calls are even easier to see because of the body’s natural reaction to contact.
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dukke v
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PLUTO
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
BUT If LSU had just hit some or those stupid shots they took.


Madking
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Member since Apr 2016
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
You know we made plenty of boneheaded plays that also cost us. We had at least 4 breaks where Smart made the bad between the legs pass, Gaines waited too long and we didn’t convert, and 2 more where we missed a cutter wide open to the rim. We also missed free throws so yea we left the door open and I’m not saying the refs won the game but they def allowed Michigan to take control and killed all of our runs in the second half so that Michigan would stay in range.


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ImayGoLesMiles
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Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
I do know that individuals have biases and I'm pretty sure that all of college basketball hates will wade and lsu bc of vitale and the media badmouthing our program for the past Couple of years. It's not far fetched to believe that it all may affect how officials call our games.


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ArkLaTexTiger
LSU Fan
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2085 posts

re: This game was so fixed WTF
In a close game everything matters - fouls called, not called, free throws, rebounds, missed shots, bench play, timeouts, coaching, etc. LSU coulda, woulda, shoulda won.



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tarzana
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TX Hwy 6, 74 miles SE of Kyle Field
Member since Sep 2015
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
Drop it, Joe. The game wasn't really that close so don't rail on about it being in some way "fixed."


ROUSTER
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Member since Sep 2003
6139 posts

re: This game was so fixed WTF
So when Thomas got called for a charge with what should have been an and 1 to cut it to 3 with 3 1/2 mins to play, isn't close?
It was all about the timing of the calls.


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OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Member since Jan 2004
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atltiger6487



Let me guess statman, you didn't watch any parts of the game did you.


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Mrwhodat
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Tiger Ugly
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Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
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It's the fouls that they don't call that hurt. It shouldn't be "well, we need to even this shite up so we'll call fewer fouls".


Yeah, I agree here..."the fouls and free throws were even" does not mean the bad calls were delegated evenly. Mascona was using this as his argument that this was not so, of course that is not a valid argument but he's not really a hoops guy so I get that.

I do think LSU got the short end of the stick on the calls overall. They were absolutely killing Cam, and the charge they called on him on that and one was pathetic,Do I think it was intentional or some conspiracy? Absolutely not.


Toroballistic
Alabama Fan
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
861 posts

re: This game was so fixed WTF
Three things in life are guaranteed:

1. Death
2. Taxes
3. LSU blaming the refs


Mrwhodat
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Member since Dec 2015
8089 posts

re: This game was so fixed WTF
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Three things in life are guaranteed:

1. Death
2. Taxes
3. LSU blaming the refs

4. Your mom is always kind enough to take her teeth out.


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chinhoyang
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Member since Jun 2011
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Stop blaming the refs for losses.


We live in a blameless society. Everything is someone else's fault.


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LSUStar
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re: This game was so fixed WTF
God this is such a stupid statement.


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