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re: There are rumblings of plea deal with Dawkins
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:58 pm to GeorgeWest
Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:58 pm to GeorgeWest
Except Alleva doesn't want him at LSU and you I can promise you that Wade won't be content working for Alleva. Alleva needs to be fired to have any chance of keeping Wade longterm.
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 3:59 pm to Sandtrap
Plea rumors have been going pretty strong for a decent while which shows that the administration was even dumber than we thought.
Thanks for suspending our coach for no reason
Thanks for suspending our coach for no reason
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:04 pm to CBarkleytruth
Rumors
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:04 pm to Sandtrap
Either way the NCAA will look into the tapes. LSU will have to fire Wade to prevent a full on NCAA investigation.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:08 pm to Jack Daniel
they won’t have access to said tapes and have no subpoena power.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:10 pm to Jack Daniel
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Either way the NCAA will look into the tapes. LSU will have to fire Wade to prevent a full on NCAA investigation
The NCAA gonna subpoena the tapes?? WTF are you talking about?
The ALLEGED tapes will likely never be heard, a plea will take place ending the trial, and it'll be a huge nothing from that point further regarding WW.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:12 pm to Jack Daniel
The NCAA lacks evidence on Wade or LSU. The likelihood is that even if the case goes to trail neither the wiretap recordings will be admitted into evidence nor will Will Wade testify, because these things are not relevant to the crimes Dawkins and others were accused of committing. Dawkins conversations with WW do not prove whether bribed TCU, Creighton, Oklahoma State, Kansas or NC State, and Dawkins' "everybody did it voluntarily" defense is not a legally recognized defense. I understand WW's lawyer's hesitance in allowing him to say anything at this point, however, the chances of him testifying are almost non-existent.
So, if the wiretap isn't admitted into evidence, it's not public record. The NCAA may try to get their hands on it, I don't believe wiretaps of third parties not indicted are subject to public disclosure under FOIA. Without that recording, the NCAA has nothing, no paper trail, no witnreses, etc.
So, if the wiretap isn't admitted into evidence, it's not public record. The NCAA may try to get their hands on it, I don't believe wiretaps of third parties not indicted are subject to public disclosure under FOIA. Without that recording, the NCAA has nothing, no paper trail, no witnreses, etc.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:14 pm to Sandtrap
Don’t forget the role the BOS played in this. I’m sure they aren’t going to get along with Wade either. And they aren’t going anywhere
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:14 pm to Sandtrap
Dawkins needs to keep his mouth shut.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:15 pm to GeorgeWest
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WW is not getting a bigtime job offer anytime soon.
I’ll give you 3:1 Bama would hire him tomorrow.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:22 pm to ellessuuuu
How do we know that the NCAA has "nothing, no paper trail, no witnesses"? According to numerous sources, it has been on campus for several mths now. And do not forget, the NCAA is not a court of law, its degree of "proof" has nothing to do with that found in our legal system.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:23 pm to emanresu
quote:I will literally meet you at sonic
He still won't be able to explain away the tapes to LSU admin, even if he doesn't testify. Same result.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:24 pm to Sandtrap
No trial but the fbi already agreed to turn over all information to the ncaa.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:24 pm to Imber
Bama hired a coach
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:25 pm to Sandtrap
A plea obviously means Wade wouldn’t be called to testify at a trial. But it also means his reason for not speaking with Alleva, et al goes away and certainly LSU still wants to meet with him.
The $9 million dollar question is where do we go from there? AD’s aren’t naive. They understand there are “improprieties” in recruiting at all major schools. Does Joe want to hunker down and work to keep Wade (ala OSU with Meyer, Auburn with Pearl, UNC with Roy Williams, etc)? Or does LSU cut bait in fear of a NCAA investigation that no one can say they know how it will go. This whole thing is a college basketball issue, not simply an LSU issue. Dozens of schools are involved.
Certainly LSU has to investigate. Do they do it under the premise that they ultimately want to keep their coach? Or do they do it looking for a reason to let him go?
The $9 million dollar question is where do we go from there? AD’s aren’t naive. They understand there are “improprieties” in recruiting at all major schools. Does Joe want to hunker down and work to keep Wade (ala OSU with Meyer, Auburn with Pearl, UNC with Roy Williams, etc)? Or does LSU cut bait in fear of a NCAA investigation that no one can say they know how it will go. This whole thing is a college basketball issue, not simply an LSU issue. Dozens of schools are involved.
Certainly LSU has to investigate. Do they do it under the premise that they ultimately want to keep their coach? Or do they do it looking for a reason to let him go?
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:26 pm to Keltic Tiger
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NaNCAA has "nothing, no paper trail, no witnesses"? According to numerous sources, it has been o
Name the fricking sources!
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:27 pm to lucki98
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No trial but the fbi already agreed to turn over all information to the ncaa.
link?
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:28 pm to Keltic Tiger
Because if they had "proof" Smart would not be eligible.
The "handler" that was identified on Thursday was actually previously ID'd by LSU when they cleared Smart. That means either LSU interviewed him and he said nothing or he told LSU to go pound sand because he is under no obligation to talk to LSU or the NCAA. Either way, if he is the person that received the "strong arse offer" he doesn't seem to be giving LSU or the NCAA anything that would rule Smart ineligible.
Keep in mind neither the NCAA nor LSU can make any individual not associated with the school participate in any investigation. So who is the going to be the witness and if they've given bad statements, why did Smart play and why is WW still employed?
The "handler" that was identified on Thursday was actually previously ID'd by LSU when they cleared Smart. That means either LSU interviewed him and he said nothing or he told LSU to go pound sand because he is under no obligation to talk to LSU or the NCAA. Either way, if he is the person that received the "strong arse offer" he doesn't seem to be giving LSU or the NCAA anything that would rule Smart ineligible.
Keep in mind neither the NCAA nor LSU can make any individual not associated with the school participate in any investigation. So who is the going to be the witness and if they've given bad statements, why did Smart play and why is WW still employed?
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:28 pm to Sandtrap
I don’t think there is as big a disagreements between wade and alleva as most think.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 4:29 pm to lucki98
Really, please tell me what authority gives the FBI the ability to hand over evidence not used in trial to a private party...
Yeah that's not how it works.
Yeah that's not how it works.
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