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re: the win/loss history of interim coaches in CFB
Posted on 11/1/16 at 12:05 am to MastrShake
Posted on 11/1/16 at 12:05 am to MastrShake
Boom.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 12:09 am to MastrShake
What is the point?
Also, he has taken over talented teams. Especially this one.. Those do not look so talented.. most interims don't have this type of situation.
Also, he has taken over talented teams. Especially this one.. Those do not look so talented.. most interims don't have this type of situation.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:39 am to MastrShake
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your point?
what Orgeron is doing as a HC is incredibly difficult and exceedingly rare.
Can you please update with the successful interim to perm HC coaches? I believe that list is fairly short. Dabo is the only one i know of.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:41 am to baytiger
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Orgeron is the best interim head coach in history
9-2 not even close
Too bad being a good interim HC rarely translates to a good perm HC.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:34 am to shutterspeed
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Nb4 these tired refutations are posted:
-position coach
-Ole Miss days
also known as "facts that anyone with a brain would factor into the hiring decision"
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:15 am to MastrShake
He's beaten shite teams
I'm not sold on him till after this week
I'm not sold on him till after this week
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:37 am to Tiger Tracker
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your point?
what Orgeron is doing as a HC is incredibly difficult and exceedingly rare.
Can you please update with the successful interim to perm HC coaches? I believe that list is fairly short. Dabo is the only one i know of.
There is another one on the OP's list. George O'Leary. Interim at GaTech in 1994 and fulltime HC from 1995-2001 (when he was hired by Notre Dame). Had a 52-33 record at GaTech.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:46 am to Jones
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point?
Orgeron is the bestest interim coach EVA
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:50 am to Boudreaux in SF
How did Hal Hunter not make the list
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:21 am to shutterspeed
You people keep drinking that coach O kool-aid and we'll be Georgia next year.
Or USCw if you'd like to use an interim to head coach example.
I get it, O has done good things for this team this year. However, there's a reason he's not a head coach.
I wish O the best, but we'd be retarded to pass up Herman or Jimbo for him. One is not like the other two.
Or USCw if you'd like to use an interim to head coach example.
I get it, O has done good things for this team this year. However, there's a reason he's not a head coach.
I wish O the best, but we'd be retarded to pass up Herman or Jimbo for him. One is not like the other two.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:28 am to MastrShake
I get it, Ole Miss was technically ranked, but everyone knows that's not a top 25 team and had no business being 23 when we played them. That's a prime example of voting based off of last years team. And I'm sure having Kelly gave them a little bump too. But if you look at Ole Miss, they may not even be top 40 this year.
As for the Stanford thing, I can't speak on it because I didn't know much about that USC team.
As for the Stanford thing, I can't speak on it because I didn't know much about that USC team.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:34 am to beauchristopher
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What is the point? Also, he has taken over talented teams. Especially this one.. Those do not look so talented.. most interims don't have this type of situation.
Yes, you can take over a talented team and still produce sh*t. Look at Kirby Smart and Georgia. Les Miles got fired not because he couldn't get talent here, he got fired because he didn't give the talent he had on offense a chance to succeed. We still have all of our tough games ahead of us. Why not wait until we get through those games before we crown O or bash him? And at the same time, lets get behind him and this team because there's still a lot to play for. There's no need for all of this infighting about who the f*cking coach will be. I want the best coach we can get, and if we can get Herman or Jimbo then great. If Coach O can get this team to beat three top 10 teams and make the playoffs then that's great and he obviously deserves serious consideration. Those are facts. Everything else is just conjecture at this point.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:44 am to saint tiger225
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You people keep drinking that coach O kool-aid and we'll be Georgia next year
Georgia is very talented. Kirby didn't exactly have to rebuild that team. Its actually the exact opposite of what O is doing, which is taking an already talented team and getting them to play up to their potential.
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Or USCw if you'd like to use an interim to head coach example.
USCw hired their interim head coach a few years too late. Whenever O was interim they had severe scholarship restrictions and got bit by the injury bug and he still went 6-2 and beat Stanford. They went for the big name and look where it got them.
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I wish O the best, but we'd be retarded to pass up Herman or Jimbo for him. One is not like the other two.
I would love to have Herman or Jimbo. But they aren't going to just come here because you want them to. Jimbo may pass and Herman might prefer Texas. Who do you want then? Fedora? Fleck? You'd be better off just hiring Aranda as HC then because they haven't proven sh*t either.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:20 am to MastrShake
Not sure if you want to put in the leg work, but do you know which of those coaches were retained and how they performed? That's a stat I think everyone here would be interested in seeing.
Of course, we all know how Dabo turned out
But what about any others that were retained?
Of course, we all know how Dabo turned out
But what about any others that were retained?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:51 am to MastrShake
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Joe Kines - Arkansas - 1992 Jack Crowe was fired after going 0-1; Kines went 3-6-1
Damn ole Joe Kines had a shorter leash than Miles did. I will have to look up the backstory on that firing now.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:53 am to Dlab2013
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O knows what to change and "flip the script"
Ive known for years that the problem was Les Miles coaching and offensive philosophy, coupled with his hiring of "buddies". Does that mean I'd be a good interim head coach too?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:52 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Why not wait until we get through those games before we crown O or bash him?
We can bash him because of what his record has been up to now. The people crowning him are giving him credit for games that have not happened.
One of these two things have not happened yet
Bad HC record
Winning out
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:58 am to 7nette
It is amazing that you want to go all the way back to three jobs ago to offer a resume, when the last two jobs have yielded very positive results, so far. I'm thinking you are a kid that thinks you know it all, but have zero wisdom, and no ability to see past your nose. If you are older, my apologies to your family for the direction you led them in.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:02 am to beauchristopher
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What is the point?
That Ed Orgeron makes one hell of an interim coach. And the next time we need one, I hope he's at the top of the list.
I mean...what else does it say? He's dominated twice as an interim, and failed as a full time head coach. Yes...he's grown and learned since then. Fine. Can we stop pretending O was 25 when he was coaching Ole Miss? The man was 44 years old when he took the reigns at Ole Miss, and from all accounts acted like a god damned idiot. Not a 20 year old, who when they are an LSU football player our fans repeat about how they are adults and about how irredeemable they are...but a fully grown as man. Keep in mind, this was after he was supposed to have gotten his shite together after his issues in Miami.
Frankly...I'm tired of arguing this. It feels like I've taken crazy pills. We fire Miles mid-season because we all, even those of us who defended the man for a LONG time, acknowledge that even given how loaded this team was he was unwilling or unable to make the changes needed to fully realize the potential he had. Some have gone so far as saying ANYONE could come in and win with what we have. Well, which is it? Is Orgeron some master football coach, or is he simply "anyone" who was willing to make the small changes necessary to win with what Miles had in place?
So a guy steps in, motivates the team during turmoil, beats three pretty bad teams at home doing what the coaches on The Rant have been calling for for years...and now many are ready to turn over the wheel to him with the entire future of the football program for the next decade in the balance?
There's just no good reason LSU should even be considering this unless we've literally been turned down by every other legitimate top choice. And if we're at that point, then we're truly and solidly fricked regardless of who they hand the whistle to, so what difference would it make...
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:23 am to TigerinDunbarton
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It is amazing that you want to go all the way back to three jobs ago to offer a resume, when the last two jobs have yielded very positive results, so far.
In a resume you look at previous experience within the field. If someone got fired from an engineering job and then worked as a waiter for the next 2 years what do you think weighs more in an interview for an engineering position?
This is how the real world works, clearly you've never been in a position to have to go through resumes for potential employees.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 9:27 am
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