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the win/loss history of interim coaches in CFB
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:37 pm
so, this is every interim coach I can find for the 65 P5 conference schools in the past 30 years, excluding coaches who took over for a bowl game like Bill Stewart.
theres 18 coaches listed here, and only 4 had a winning record. Brian Cabral went 2-1, Dabo Swiney went 4-3, Clay Helton went 5-4, Ed Orgeron went 6-2, and Ed Orgeron went 3-0.
most of these are just bad teams of course, but 2015 USC was pre-season number 8. Helton finished out 5-4 and USC was not in the final rankings.
2009 Clemson was pre-season number 9. Dabo finished 4-3 and Clemson was number 24 in the final rankings.
2013 USC was pre-season number 24. Orgeron finished 6-2 and USC was number 19 in the final rankings.
its the only example I can find of a teams ranking actually improving under the interim.
if there's any I missed, just let me know
Ed Orgeron - LSU - 2016
Les Miles was fired after going 2-2; Orgeron has gone 3-0
Gerad Parker - Purdue - 2016
Darrell Hazell was fired after going 3-3; Parker has gone 0-2
Clay Helton - USC - 2015
Steve Sarkisian was fired after going 3-2; Helton went 5-4
Shawn Elliot - South Carolina - 2015
Steve Spurrier resigned after going 2-4; Elliot went 1-5
Mike Locksley - Maryland - 2015
Randy Edsall was fired after going 2-4; Locksley went 1-5
Bill Cubit - Illinois - 2015
Tim Beckman was fired before the season started, after going 6-7 the year before. Cubit went 5-7
Clint Bowen - Kansas - 2014
Charlie Weis was fired after going 2-2; Bowen went 1-7
Ed Orgeron - USC - 2013
Lane Kiffin was fired after going 3-2; Orgeron went 6-2
Tim Kish - Arizona - 2011
Mike Stoops was fired after going 1-5; Kish went 3-3
Tom Bradley - Penn State - 2011
Joe Paterno was fired after going 8-1; Bradley went 1-3
Brian Cabral - Colorado - 2010
Dan Hawkins was fired after going 3-6; Cabral went 2-1
Jeff Horton - Minnesota - 2010
Tim Brewster was fired after going 1-6; Horton went 2-3
Dabo Swinney - Clemson - 2008
Tommy Bowden was fired after going 3-3; Swinney went 4-3
Mike Hankwitz - Arizona - 2003
John Mackovic was fired after going 1-4; Hankwitz went 1-6
Morris Watts - Michigan State - 2002
Bobby Williams was fired after going 3-6; Watts went 1-2
Tom Hayes - Kansas - 2001
Terry Allen was fired after going 2-6; Hayes went 1-2
Bill Oliver - Auburn - 1998
Terry Bowden was fired after going 1-5; Oliver went 2-3
George O'Leary - Georgia Tech - 1994
Bill Lewis resigned after going 1-6; O'Leary went 0-3
Joe Kines - Arkansas - 1992
Jack Crowe was fired after going 0-1; Kines went 3-6-1
theres 18 coaches listed here, and only 4 had a winning record. Brian Cabral went 2-1, Dabo Swiney went 4-3, Clay Helton went 5-4, Ed Orgeron went 6-2, and Ed Orgeron went 3-0.
most of these are just bad teams of course, but 2015 USC was pre-season number 8. Helton finished out 5-4 and USC was not in the final rankings.
2009 Clemson was pre-season number 9. Dabo finished 4-3 and Clemson was number 24 in the final rankings.
2013 USC was pre-season number 24. Orgeron finished 6-2 and USC was number 19 in the final rankings.
its the only example I can find of a teams ranking actually improving under the interim.
if there's any I missed, just let me know
Ed Orgeron - LSU - 2016
Les Miles was fired after going 2-2; Orgeron has gone 3-0
Gerad Parker - Purdue - 2016
Darrell Hazell was fired after going 3-3; Parker has gone 0-2
Clay Helton - USC - 2015
Steve Sarkisian was fired after going 3-2; Helton went 5-4
Shawn Elliot - South Carolina - 2015
Steve Spurrier resigned after going 2-4; Elliot went 1-5
Mike Locksley - Maryland - 2015
Randy Edsall was fired after going 2-4; Locksley went 1-5
Bill Cubit - Illinois - 2015
Tim Beckman was fired before the season started, after going 6-7 the year before. Cubit went 5-7
Clint Bowen - Kansas - 2014
Charlie Weis was fired after going 2-2; Bowen went 1-7
Ed Orgeron - USC - 2013
Lane Kiffin was fired after going 3-2; Orgeron went 6-2
Tim Kish - Arizona - 2011
Mike Stoops was fired after going 1-5; Kish went 3-3
Tom Bradley - Penn State - 2011
Joe Paterno was fired after going 8-1; Bradley went 1-3
Brian Cabral - Colorado - 2010
Dan Hawkins was fired after going 3-6; Cabral went 2-1
Jeff Horton - Minnesota - 2010
Tim Brewster was fired after going 1-6; Horton went 2-3
Dabo Swinney - Clemson - 2008
Tommy Bowden was fired after going 3-3; Swinney went 4-3
Mike Hankwitz - Arizona - 2003
John Mackovic was fired after going 1-4; Hankwitz went 1-6
Morris Watts - Michigan State - 2002
Bobby Williams was fired after going 3-6; Watts went 1-2
Tom Hayes - Kansas - 2001
Terry Allen was fired after going 2-6; Hayes went 1-2
Bill Oliver - Auburn - 1998
Terry Bowden was fired after going 1-5; Oliver went 2-3
George O'Leary - Georgia Tech - 1994
Bill Lewis resigned after going 1-6; O'Leary went 0-3
Joe Kines - Arkansas - 1992
Jack Crowe was fired after going 0-1; Kines went 3-6-1
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 11:08 pm
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:41 pm to MastrShake
your point?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:43 pm to MastrShake
The rest of those are fired because it was overall shitty. Miles and his ideas were the only problems in this program. The supporting staff (most part) and players are stacked. So yeah
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:44 pm to Jones
quote:what Orgeron is doing as a HC is incredibly difficult and exceedingly rare.
your point?
Posted on 10/31/16 at 10:57 pm to jimbeam
NM
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:02 pm to MastrShake
Orgeron is the best interim head coach in history
9-2 not even close
9-2 not even close
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:05 pm to baytiger
Also I'm assuming you're not counting 1 game bowl interims because it would make this list ridiculously long
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:07 pm to MastrShake
Were you only looking at coaches that coached a minimum amount of games? You missed the LSU coach with the greatest winning percentage of all time. (Both career and at LSU, since he only was the head coach at LSU.)
Hal Hunter, 1999 LSU 1-0
Hal Hunter, 1999 LSU 1-0
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:08 pm to MastrShake
Great post
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:11 pm to MastrShake
quote:
what Orgeron is doing as a HC is incredibly difficult and exceedingly rare.
Other teams: fire HC when program is in a tailspin.
LSU: a Ferrari with a potato stuck in the exhaust pipe. Potato gone, car drives fine.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:13 pm to baytiger
quote:
Orgeron is the best interim head coach in history
9-2 not even close
How many of these interim coaches took over for a top 5 preseason team? Looks like shitty teams with shitty coaches fired their coaches and still ended up with a shitty season. Looks like 2 out of 3 teams that were ranked preseason ended up ranked at the end of season.
Not the greatest at math but it seems like:
shitty coach + shitty team - shitty coach = shitty season.
shitty coach + decent team - shitty coach = decent season.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:15 pm to Jones
quote:
your point?
Well if you don't see it you.cant read.
Nice post Shake.
it obviously illustrates O knows what to change and "flip the script" 
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:17 pm to 7nette
quote:holy frick, what spin.
Looks like 2 out of 3 teams that were ranked preseason ended up ranked at the end of season.
Clemson under Dabo went from number 9 to number 24
USC under Orgeron went from number 24 to number 19
but yeah, lets pretend like those are the same thing
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:20 pm to MastrShake
quote:
but yeah, lets pretend like those are the same thing
Or how about lets pretend a loss to SMU/Navy or UNC/Louisville/Clemson is worse than a 10-25 HC record.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:30 pm to MastrShake
Nb4 these tired refutations are posted:
-position coach
-Ole Miss days
-former LSU coach-hiring practices
-position coach
-Ole Miss days
-former LSU coach-hiring practices
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:39 pm to 7nette
quote:in other words you want Jimbo or Herman and now youre gonna disparage Orgeron in threads that dont even mention them.
Or how about lets pretend a loss to SMU/Navy or UNC/Louisville/Clemson is worse than a 10-25 HC record.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:48 pm to MastrShake
quote:
in other words you want Jimbo or Herman and now youre gonna disparage Orgeron in threads that dont even mention them.
I want a coach that has more than 1 ranked win in 46 games. I guess I'm setting the bar too high for myself... carry on.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:50 pm to MastrShake
quote:
MastrShake
It's no use. You are dealing with people, who for the most part, hired Bobby Jindal (twice),J B Edwards, K Blanco and so on.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 11:50 pm to MastrShake
quote:
in other words you want Jimbo or Herman and now youre gonna disparage Orgeron in threads that dont even mention them.
I can speak for him but Jimbo won my heart with his tantrum/rant against the refs from the FSU-Clemson game.
I wish an LSU coach had the balls to say what Jimbo said postgame Saturday.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 12:01 am to 7nette
quote:well then youre in luck; in his last 6 games as HC, Orgeron has wins over #23 Ole Miss and #5 Stanford.
I want a coach that has more than 1 ranked win in 46 games.
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