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re: The truth about Adam Miller
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:20 am to Tiger1988
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:20 am to Tiger1988
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McMahon is a questionable hire for head coach. This team has underperformed from a competitiveness perspective so you’re blaming Miller.
Miller has as much to blame for the lack of success of this team as the coaching staff and other underperforming players like Juice.
My issue with the narrative around Miller is the casual basketball fans who take Will Wade’s word for him that he was really good and want to blame the the team on his performance when he is also culpable for his poor play.
I could forgive him missing difficult shots if he was forced to take them. My issue with Miller is the constant missed open shots, the horrible shot IQ, and the lack of consistency.
Fans defending him because WW said he was good makes it worse. Every qualifier fans say to defend him: “his acl injury, he needs to be on a better team, he needs a smaller role” etc. were all met at Illinois yet his stats and eye test there are similarly lackluster. He’s the same player here as he was there, he’s always been a mediocre shooter.
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:33 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Miller has as much to blame for the lack of success of this team as the coaching staff and other underperforming players like Juice.
Hey dumbass, WHO MAKES UP THE LINE-UP? Who subs in? Get out of here with that bullshite.
The HC is SOLELY RESPONSIBLE WHEN HE HAD A PLAYER ON THE BENCH WHO SHOOTS BETTER THAN 40% from 3 EVERY YEAR AT LSU.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:35 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Don’t even compare an ACL injury in football to basketball it’s not the same sport
You’re right because an ACL is MUCH WORSE FOR A SPORT THAT HAS TO CONSTANTLY CUF AND JUMP. MUCH WORSE
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:38 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
He is no where near the player he was pre injury, that's the truth and all there really is to it.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:41 am to Tiger1988
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Hey dumbass, WHO MAKES UP THE LINE-UP? Who subs in? Get out of here with that bullshite.
The HC is SOLELY RESPONSIBLE WHEN HE HAD A PLAYER ON THE BENCH WHO SHOOTS BETTER THAN 40% from 3 EVERY YEAR AT LSU.
He was literally playing with a shoulder injury in his shooting arm... like I said he was starting prior to hurting it and trying to play through it earlier in the season...
Had CMM played him through his injury the entire season you'd be calling Wilkinson trash or CMM trash for making him play while he's unhealthy...
Learn to calm down and learn to read, please.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:41 am to ForeverLSU5
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He is no where near the player he was pre injury, that's the truth and all there really is to it.
Just flat out wrong. Look at his stats at Illinois lmao.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:43 am to Tiger1988
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Wilkinson has shot >40% from 3 every season he has been here… I bet there aren’t too many players that can say the same.
Just keeping it real.
That wasn't a knock on Mwani, but if he was truly a great 3 point shooter, he should have been taking more than 0.2 and 1.8 3 point attempts a game. He has averaged 0.5 3 pointers made per game since he has been here.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:52 am to LSBoosie
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That wasn't a knock on Mwani, but if he was truly a great 3 point shooter, he should have been taking more than 0.2 and 1.8 3 point attempts a game. He has averaged 0.5 3 pointers made per game since he has been here.
I think calling him a great 3pt shooter is casual statwatching. People who see a percentage but don't watch the games and know where those shots come from.
Mwani is a good CORNER 3pt shooter. He can bail out the offense when he's open and HOPEFULLY give Adam more open looks due to his ability to hit from the corner. Because according to the Adam Miller defenders, that's exactly what he needs to be good!! Even though he's NEVER been that good of a shooter.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:13 am to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Just flat out wrong. Look at his stats at Illinois lmao.
He was a true freshman on a number 1 seed in the NCAAT moron, 8 PPG on 49% shooting as a true freshman is pretty good for being on a team of that caliber.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:23 am to ForeverLSU5
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He was a true freshman on a number 1 seed in the NCAAT moron, 8 PPG on 49% shooting as a true freshman is pretty good for being on a team of that caliber.
I’m going to debunk this on several levels.
LSU fans defend Miller’s current performance by saying his ACL injury is making him worse, he’s playing on a bad team, and he’s in too big of a role, etc.
That would be all fine and dandy if his tenure at Illinois didn’t prove all those things incorrect. As a true freshman, Miller averaged 7.2pts on 32.4% from 3 in conference play. Compare that to 8.8pts on 29.9% here at LSU. Both are awful.
Brandon Murray, another true freshman SG, averaged 11ppg on 34.9% from 3 in conference play. Miller is just flat out garbage.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:36 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Why doesn't he dribble in a little closer and shoot since he absolutely sucks at 3's?
Posted on 2/6/23 at 3:39 pm to ErnMcCracken
It really wouldn’t make much difference. No point in shooting a long two for the same efficiency when you’re just as likely to make a shot that’s worth one more point.
There’s a reason basketball teams don’t really shoot long twos anymore.
There’s a reason basketball teams don’t really shoot long twos anymore.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:17 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
I should have said dribble in a lot closer or drive to the hole
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:20 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
The truth is that as a basketball player, he’s below average at the collegiate level.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:21 pm to ErnMcCracken
Problem is he’s lost lift and control with the injury. He can’t elevate like he’s used to yet and he can’t stop and start under control yet so his effectiveness on the drive isn’t back to normal. You’ll notice he looks like he’s playing too fast sometimes and that’s because he isn’t fully recovered yet so he can’t make those quick transfers with his lower half.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:29 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
I saw him play on the Gold Medal Winning Team at the 19U World Championships a few years back for Team USA. He was the Best Player on that team. This is not the same player.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:33 pm to ArcticTiger
Exactly right, just look at the arc on his shot being totally different, he’s quicker and under control plus he has the power to play through contact as well as elevate over defenders here. That’s all due to having strength in his lower half that isn’t fully back yet.
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This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:24 pm to Madking
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I saw him play on the Gold Medal Winning Team at the 19U World Championships a few years back for Team USA. He was the Best Player on that team. This is not the same player.
The competition he is playing against is significantly better now lmao. Those teams were getting run out the gym every game.
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Exactly right, just look at the arc on his shot being totally different, he’s quicker and under control plus he has the power to play through contact as well as elevate over defenders here. That’s all due to having strength in his lower half that isn’t fully back yet.
If you look at these highlights and his highlights at Illinois the only main difference is his tendency to drive and the type of moves he’ll do. You could say it’s from his explosiveness being gone but you could also say it’s due to a fear of getting injured as well.
I’m going to be completely honest, if you look at his Illinois highlights there really isn’t a difference in the mechanics that I notice. His shot form in the FIBA highlights looks a little more mechanically awkward and was probably fixed by his coaches later in his career.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:42 pm to ArcticTiger
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I saw him play on the Gold Medal Winning Team at the 19U World Championships a few years back for Team USA. He was the Best Player on that team.
Considering he played with a few guys who are in the NBA now who outperformed him in both the tournament and in college I’m going to say you’re either blind or just lying that he was the best player on the team. There’s just no way. He wasn’t even the best in the tournament at that time as multiple guys put up significantly better stats than him.
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