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The truth about Adam Miller

Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:31 pm
The majority of LSU fans overrated Adam Miller coming into this season due to several reasons including: Will Wade spoke highly of him and the fact that he stayed with LSU.

Although I do think Ace would play slightly better on a better team, the individual aspects of his game are poor. He is an extremely awful decision maker; he has terrible shot IQ, terrible passing IQ, and chucks shots. His defense isn’t bad though.

He wasn’t this mythical player at Illinois that everyone thinks he was. He played with two NBA level players, shot close to the same efficiency from the field, and overall didn’t display much more than he’s showing here. It’s time to stop overrating him and be real with his abilities. Stop defending him just because you like him and Will Wade said he was really good.
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6714 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:32 pm to
He isn't the same player since his injury.
Posted by purplengold1
Illinois
Member since Feb 2009
5065 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:36 pm to
He’s not meant to be the focal point.

#1. The injury definitely has something to do with it.

#2. This team is bad. If you put other good players around, he would get more open looks. He shouldn’t be shooting 12 times a game.

#3. Stop blaming Will Wade.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7635 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:40 pm to
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He isn't the same player since his injury.

He is though. He’s basically the same player that he was at Illinois.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36809 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:42 pm to
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mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Dude, if you started this account to do whatever this nonsense is, then okay.

I don't know how to talk with you guys.

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overrated Adam Miller coming into this season due to several reasons including: Will Wade spoke highly of him and the fact that he stayed with LSU.

Miller was crushing it in practices at LSU and Wade prior to his ACL.

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Stop defending him just because you like him and Will Wade said he was really good.
You can just gfy imo.

I'm a nice guy, but I mean that sincerely.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24263 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:48 pm to
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It’s time to stop overrating him and be real with his abilities. Stop defending him just because you like him and Will Wade said he was really good.


What the hell are you talking about? Just about every poster on here is saying his performance sucks and they are not defending anything he does.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:53 pm to
My dude, he shot only 3% better from three at Illinois. Thinking his injury majorly derailed him is delusional. Practice is a whole different story from the games. Just because you can shoot in practice doesn’t mean it’s replicable in games.

Whoever said he shouldn’t be shooting twelve shots a game, you’re correct. He forces shots unnecessarily. I don’t know what’s worse, the open shots he misses or the repetitive low-IQ shots he forces.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
7635 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:58 pm to
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Practice is a whole different story from the games.

Who was it that they hyped up as like the next Ray Allen a couple of years ago? Mwani maybe?
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6714 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 5:59 pm to
Because of this team's lack of talent, he's being forced to take on the role of being the star player and carrying the team. That's not his game. He's a good complimentary player that would be much more productive if he was serving in a different role.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:03 pm to
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Dude, if you started this account to do whatever this nonsense is, then okay. I don't know how to talk with you guys.


LSU students are called McManiacs. McManiacInsaneAsylum is a play on that since we’re losing and we’re maniacs. It’s not that deep.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36809 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:05 pm to
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My dude, he shot only 3% better from three at Illinois. Thinking his injury majorly derailed him is delusional. Practice is a whole different story from the games. Just because you can shoot in practice doesn’t mean it’s replicable in games.

Whoever said he shouldn’t be shooting twelve shots a game, you’re correct. He forces shots unnecessarily. I don’t know what’s worse, the open shots he misses or the repetitive low-IQ shots he forces.


There is so much to unpack here, but first of all, your username tells me something, but that's fine. I'll let you address that.

To think Miller wouldn't have been better outside of his ACL is just mind numbing to me.

For all you WW can't coach types, just look at how he devolved players.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:20 pm to
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To think Miller wouldn't have been better outside of his ACL is just mind numbing to me.


An ACL injury should not drastically inhibit a shooter’s ability to shoot. Quite the opposite in fact, as many players have developed an outside shot to cope with knee injuries and age related wear and tear.

The facts are this: Adam Miller shot 30% from three in conference play at Illinois despite playing on a better team. If you can provide facts and evidence as to why he was a better player pre injury (besides saying WW said he was the practice Ray Allen) I will change my mind.

Go look at his highlights in high school, go look at his highlights at Illinois, look at the stats and the game by game splits. He wasn’t this drastically different player pre injury like you all think.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41859 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:25 pm to
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#3. Stop blaming Will Wade.




WW is 100% responsible for this position LSU Basketball is in.

Having said this, we need guys that can finish at rim
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36809 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:32 pm to
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An ACL injury should not drastically inhibit a shooter’s ability to shoot. Quite the opposite in fact, as many players have developed an outside shot to cope with knee injuries and age related wear and tear.
Okay.

So tearing your ACL is better? Is this one of the Tommy John's he throws better now?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?



Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:40 pm to
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Who was it that they hyped up as like the next Ray Allen a couple of years ago? Mwani maybe?
Andre Hyatt comes to mind.

Of course Josh Gray was compared to Chris Jackson too.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35361 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:47 pm to
Unless I am mistaken, Miller has 3 years of eligibility after this one, so he has time to improve. I think he should be in a 6th man role, providing a spark off the bench.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:49 pm to
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So tearing your ACL is better? Is this one of the Tommy John's he throws better now?


Stop straw-manning what I’m saying. An ACL injury only drastically inhibits a basketball players ability if they were primarily athletically based (driving, dunks, layups, etc). That has NEVER been Ace’s game. Even so, many players tear their ACL and come back like nothing happened. This isn’t the 1970s where an ACL was a career ender. Obviously everyone isn’t the same but the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that an ACL tear isn’t responsible for Miller’s performance.

Furthermore, you provided no counter argument or evidence to my point of his play at Illinois. He was healthy back then, playing on a better team, and in a smaller role. Yet, he put up strikingly similar stats and production. Maybe he was always the player he’s always been??? Go figure.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36809 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Stop straw-manning what I’m saying.
This is not fair. I don't straw man arguments.

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An ACL injury only drastically inhibits a basketball players ability if they were primarily athletically based (driving, dunks, layups, etc).
Well you just went nuts here. Is your point that ACLs only impact highly athletic athletes?

I thought I could have a conversation, but you do you. I can't deal with nonsense.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:24 pm to
My brother, your lack of understanding of basketball and what I’m saying is shining through clearly.

Still waiting for evidence on him being a better player prior to his injury.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1970 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 7:26 pm to
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He is though. He’s basically the same player that he was at Illinois.


The fact that this has more downvotes than upvotes proves y’all have no idea what you’re talking about. How hard is to go to ESPN.com and look at his stats from his year at Illinois to see he isn’t a different player?
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