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re: The truth about Adam Miller

Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:52 pm to
You're still at this?

Your Adam Miller is noted. Let it go.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:06 pm to
Nothing you’ve posted is relevant or refuted anything I said. If you don’t know how to evaluate actual basketball and can only regurgitate statistics you’re just compensating for ignorance.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:25 pm to
Cam Thomas- 40.4%FG, 32.5% 3s

mcmainiacinsaneasylum logic…. “Cam Thomas is garbage”
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:30 pm to
Cam Thomas also led all freshman in scoring, shot at a much higher volume, was a better free throw shooter, took significantly more difficult shots than Miller, and could actually lead an offense. He never shot anywhere close to the 1-1, 2-12, etc. splits we see from Adam.

One of these players is a good scorer in the NBA and the other will never touch an NBA court.

But go ahead and strawman what I say. As far as saying what I'm saying isn't relevant, I really have nothing other to say than look at what I said when I discussed his driving tendencies and shot form.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:44 pm to
Lol predictable goal post moving. Your standard doesn’t hold water so you just move on to the next stage of bullshite. Again you don’t know how to evaluate the actual game or player skill. You have some personal axe to grind when it comes to Miller and it’s obvious.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:50 pm to
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axe to grind when it comes to Miller and it’s obvious
Even look at this dude's profile.

I talked with him the other day and I know I can get a bit lost trying to deal with these guys.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 8:52 pm to
Oh ok, I went check his profile, the dude is a moron. Imagine personally hating the hardest worker, great attitude guy and best leader we have. You’d have to be an unstable retard.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36808 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:06 pm to
Exactly. I shout you out in Basketball discourse. You’ve seen it, same as our good BB posters.

We see it right? Am I negative, probably. It’s just what I see. All our MBB topics have this narrative. I’m on Tiger Ugly and hope. There are no one that wants to win than us.

I could have said that in a better way.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:10 pm to
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You’d have to be an unstable retard.


My profile occupation is a joke due to the boards I've been most active on TD.
I have no personal axe to grind, I never expected this thread to get this much heat.

I never moved the goalpost, I mentioned multiple times earlier in this thread about eye test, shot selection and IQ, etc.

There is a clear difference between putting up 40/32 splits on 12ppg and 23 lmao. No goal post moving. You're just ignoring multiple of my points expressed earlier in the thread.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47599 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:15 pm to
You just did exactly what you said you didn’t do. Your % standard didn’t hold so you moved on to another one based on the player comparison. Had I compared him to some other player you’d be used a different standard to move on to. You can’t be objective when it comes to this topic and it’s obvious.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:20 pm to
You literally strawmanned a small point of my argument and are now saying that I'm not being objective.

I'm not moving the goalpost on the percentage argument. The percentage argument comes with the context of Miller's role in the offense and the number and kinds of shots he gets.

They aren't the same and neither is Cam's percentage to Adam's.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36808 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:24 pm to
This dude is a young guy and doesn't know his shite yet.

He hates Adam Miller, but if I could take an LSU Basketball fan, always. We've talked a lot.

Just wait until no one is giving two shits.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47599 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:26 pm to
There’s no straw man, at this point I doubt you even know what it means and yes you moved the goalpost which had been described multiple times in detail. What’s even more telling is that you continue to try and do it while claiming you haven’t done it once.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47599 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:29 pm to
You said it, “he hates Adam Miller” and there’s no amount of video evidence or objective evaluation that will change his mind because he’s emotionally and irrationally invested in that opinion. It’s willful ignorance and there’s no cure for it.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

This dude is a young guy and doesn't know his shite yet.


I've followed basketball since I was like four years old. It's always been my favorite sport. The sport has changed so much within the past few years. My age has nothing to do with understanding of the sport. If anything, people from my generation think people from yours have outdated views and takes and aren't up to date with how much the game has changed.

I respect all of you but I think inevitably there will be a rift between generations due to different views and perspectives. At the end of the day, we all love LSU basketball and want the team to win.

The whole purpose of my post was because I dislike all the Ace apologetics because I find it an extension of the WW fanaticism. Point blank, WW is gone and there's no point crying about him being gone anymore. We need to move on and support CMM while he's here.

I don't dislike Ace, quite the opposite. I'm just upset that he is falling short of expectations. It's made worse by the fact how everyone wants to defend him on here when there's no reason to. Y'all can criticize and critique every player on the roster but want to go out of your way to defend Ace. It's illogical.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36808 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

You said it, “he hates Adam Miller” and there’s no amount of video evidence or objective evaluation that will change his mind because he’s emotionally and irrationally invested in that opinion. It’s willful ignorance and there’s no cure for it.
The irrational hatred towards Miller.

Why>?

I am still confused.

I think this guy might be an LSU basketball fan, an we know we need them. His hate for Adam is nonsense.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47599 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:36 pm to
Yes he’s young and ignorant and I’ll give you a perfect example from this thread. So the FIBA video was posted to illustrate physical differences between pre and post injury Miller. The first thing he did was jump to dismiss Millers then just a paragraph or 2 later he’s using that same performance to attack Miller. So at first it doesn’t count but then when he figures out he can use it all of the sudden it does count in his twisted context. Just proves he has zero objectivity or credibility when it comes to this topic.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47599 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:39 pm to
He doesn’t like that people defend Miller even though he’s still recovering from a major injury and operating in an antiquated, predictable offense with zero flexibility or imagination to it surrounded by personnel combinations that don’t make sense and restrain everyone on the court.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:39 pm to
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I think this guy might be an LSU basketball fan


I literally go to every home game and watch every away game on TV. There is no sport I watch and support more at LSU than basketball, even football.

I feel like my criticism of Adam might come off as emotionally harsh but it is backed by evidence. He is just not good, and that's that. Whether it be from his injury, role on the team, or whatever excuse you want to give him, he is simply not playing well.

I personally don't think he's any different from Illinois and is simply not equivalent to the hype. I'm glad he stayed but often times I feel like he hurts the team more than helps and it's simply frustrating. I just want to win.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
1969 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:44 pm to
If you can show me where I dismissed his performance in FIBA I'll shut up.

How is it dismissing FIBA to say that the level of competition is significantly worse than D1 college basketball? It's just a fact.

I also admitted that he did look different in terms of the moves he uses on attacking the rim and that his jumper did look different.
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