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re: The reality is LSU's offense is going to struggle all season
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:58 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:58 pm to The Pirate King
The play calling is what i see as a liability. We need to be more vertical on our passes too. Too many sideline passes that are pic 6’s waiting to happen. Running back not a dominant position at lsu right now either. We are spoiled. Agree with poster that we don’t have the talent at wide receiver we’ve had in the past.
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:02 pm to SwampyWaters
I remember when numbnuts like this thougth that JD5 was the problem with the offense. These idiots have no idea just how stupid they are.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:04 pm to Spankum
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When compared to the last two Heisman trophy winning quarterbacks, of course there will be a drop off in production
Only compared to their Heisman seasons. He's actually exceeding their first seasons (or really Jayden's 4th).
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:05 pm to SwampyWaters
Holy shite you must have not seen a real struggling LSU offense..
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:15 pm to subidc
quote:No it is not. Even yesterday the only two bad pass blocking grades were Campbell and Chester. Chester has been a real problem this year and IMO, the major concern on the OL. Also, the play calling and Nuss has been a problem for the OL. Nuss not only not running the ball, but not throwing deep much is the main reason we keep having all out pressure and loaded boxes. He does nothing to keep the defense honest. He's averaging 7.7 yards per pass attempt. For reference, with a turrible OL in 2022, and a hesitancy of throwing deep, Jayden Daniels averaged 7.5 ypa. The difference is that he could run.
Our O line is trash.
quote:The first USC game, yes, this one, no. He left a lot to be desired, but i did love the grit and determination. I give him a pass because it was his first away crowd as a starter.
Nuss is one of the only reasons we were in both USC games
quote:I can agree with this.
Could he pull it and run once or twice a game. Yes but he has played fairly well so far this season.
I stated this before, but when Kelly didn't have a dual threat for the first time in 7 years at ND, he utilized the backup QB, and he got 3-5 carries per game, along with a couple passes. Collins needs at least 5 snaps per game.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:26 pm to SwampyWaters
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The biggest problem we're having is we have a QB that poses absolute no threat to take off and run, so that plays right into the defense's hand.
Lots of QBs don’t or can’t run. This isn’t something new.
The idea that QB has to run is false.
Plenty of successful teams have had non running QBs.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:27 pm to SwampyWaters
Thats post is dumber than anything Lester ever posted. Congratulations !
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:31 pm to SwampyWaters
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QB that poses absolute no threat to take off and run,
He could. He's probably not going to break a TD run like Sellers did, but he could move if he needed to. The issue is that he doesn't need to take unnecessary hits out in the open, because if he has to sit, we're probably screwed.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:36 pm to CalTiger53
LSU’s offense was always ranked around 90th in the country under Les. This offense is stinking it up with procedural issues and red zone play calling/execution but this is far from the Les days. Most people don’t know shite about football they just cry on the internet about it like little bitches.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:53 pm to SwampyWaters
you're missing your calling as a professional analyst or a coach
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:11 pm to SwampyWaters
After the slow start we scored on 6 out of 7 possessions, and the 1 was a turnover on downs at the goal line
That's incompatible with "struggling"
That's incompatible with "struggling"
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:35 pm to SwampyWaters
Nuss not running more might simply reflect how absolutely poor our reserve QBs actually are. Sloan knows this and is practically begging Nuss to stay safe.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:37 pm to SwampyWaters
Come on man...we don't need a QB be able to run to be able to gain 1, or 2 or even 3 yards near the goal line or for a first down. We simply can't do it with this Oline, and it certainly isn't because we don't have a running QB.
Our Oline is soft and certainly not agile enough to pull . They haven't open 5 holes all season. For LSU to be any good at all this year, they need to start doing what everyone said they were capable of, because they haven't done it yet.
Our Oline is soft and certainly not agile enough to pull . They haven't open 5 holes all season. For LSU to be any good at all this year, they need to start doing what everyone said they were capable of, because they haven't done it yet.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:39 pm to SwampyWaters
Will Campbell / DJ get theist shite pushed in for 4 quarters and Nuss is the problem….. I swear we have some fans that are completely retarded.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:51 pm to SwampyWaters
Man! Finally someone said it! I know that for years people were saying “the problem with that Patriots offense is that Tom Brady isn’t a threat to run”, and that dumb arse Bill Belichick never figured it out. If only everyone had a dual threat QB that was a threat to win, it would be on!
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:21 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Not really, no.
Lots of QBs don’t or can’t run. This isn’t something new.
The idea that QB has to run is false.
Plenty of successful teams have had non running QBs.
Let's just go to the top 10
Texas - Ewers ran 59 times for 75 yards. That's mobility, not statue. He had 6 games last year where he had 5 or more carries. In two of those games he had negative yardage, but both he had 8 and 6 carries and one was only -14 yards. Arch is a dual threat
UGA - Beck has 11 carries for 55 yards in 3 games. Last year he had 60 carries for 116 yards and 4 TDs
Ohio St - Howard has 5 carries for 24 yards and 1 TD in 2 games this year. Last year he ran 81 times for 350 yards and 4 TDs for a 9-4 K State.
Bama - Jalen Milroe is a dual threat
Ole Miss - Dart has 18 carries 54 yards and 3 TDs. Last year he had 119 carries 390 yards and 8 TDs
Tennessee- Nico has 17 carries for 102 yards and 1 TD
Mizzou - Cook has 15 carries 90 yards and 4 TDs. He had 113 carries 320 yards and 8 TDs last year
Miami - Ward has 7 carries 46 yards and 1 TD. Last year he ran 120 times
Oregon - Gabriel has 18 carries for 28 yards and 2 TDs. Dude was sacked 4 times vs Boise St, but had a 50 something yard TD run
Penn St - Aller has 13 carries 51 yards and 1 TD in 2 games. Last year he ran 74 times for 206 yards and 4 TDs. They also have a backup QB who ran 56 times for 330 yards and 6 TDs.
USC has a pocket QB
Utah, K St, and Oklahoma have dual threats.
Oklahoma St has a mobile QB, but he doesn't really run.
The vast majority of successful teams have a QB who can run. Nuss is the exact opposite of the trend along with Miller Moss. People like Nuss and Moss are almost non existent on good teams.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 2:23 am
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:10 am to GeorgeWest
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419 yards of O and 36 points in an SEC road game does not sound like a struggling O to me.
If you thought the offense ran smoothly, then you need to get some glasses or get some new glasses. With Daniels, teams couldn't load the box or rush 3 and drop 8 every play because they knew he would make them pay. He added a whole new dimension to the game and how defenses played us.
With Nuss, defenses only have to prepare for the running back and that's big. I'm not saying Nuss is a bad QB because I think he's a great passer and will likely play in the NFL. My point is having a QB that can't run and not having an elite RB allows defenses to pin their ears back and attack from a plethora of different ways and that will make any OL look bad.
A prime example is when we drove inside the five and couldn't score. Last year, it was almost guaranteed we would score inside the five simply because of Daniels' ability to run and stretch defenses. This year that part of the game is gone and that is huge.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:57 am to Datbayoubengal
Your stats prove the opposite of what you are trying to prove. Most of those QBs are not runners at all. Just because a QB occasionally scrambles does not make him a runner. Nuss is every bit as athletic and mobile as Carson Beck or Quinn Ewers. Actually Ewers might be the most unathletic QB in the Top 25.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:56 am to Datbayoubengal
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The vast majority of successful teams have a QB who can run. Nuss is the exact opposite of the trend along with Miller Moss. People like Nuss and Moss are almost non existent on good teams.
Great point. Listen, I'm not knocking Nuss because I think he's a great passer. My point is when you have a QB that can't run, it severely limits what you can do offensively. This is one of the main reasons we can't run the ball is because defenses load the box or blitz more players than the OL can handle because our QB is no threat to run.
Look at recruiting and you will see most of the teams are going after a dual QB because it totally changes what you can do offensively. The NFL is still a drop back passer league, but even they are slowing changing to the dual QB. You don't have to be a great running QB, but you do have to be able to run enough to keep the defense honest and Nuss simply can't.
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