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re: The profit argument is retarded in MBB
Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:11 pm to Sheppards Pie
Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:11 pm to Sheppards Pie
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Maybe I’m different from most fans, but I grew up watching college baseball
You are different from most fans nationwide. That’s because LSU’s rabid support for baseball is a HUGE outlier. LSU baseball is already funded at level higher than any other program in the nation. That’s because the overwhelming majority of fans of the other schools simply don’t care.
Alabama’s baseball coach got busted trying to bet on games because he and some moron tried to make a huge bet on a college game and the Sportsbook was like “WTF?” No one cares enough about college baseball to bet this much. Something must be up.
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 10:16 pm to Alt26
Thank you. I agree with you. But you have to differentiate between baseball fans and baseball programs here. Schools like OM, TN, A&M, Texas and Florida are heavily investing in their baseball programs.
Seeing 2000 Florida fans show up in Omaha for their run was pathetic. But LSU sends 25k fans to Omaha for their run. LSU baseball fans are just different
Seeing 2000 Florida fans show up in Omaha for their run was pathetic. But LSU sends 25k fans to Omaha for their run. LSU baseball fans are just different
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 1/15/26 at 2:54 am to Sheppards Pie
Starting 4 threads on this is alarming. How drunk are you
Posted on 1/15/26 at 3:37 am to Sheppards Pie
quote:The athletic department surely does. The profit argument is absolutely genuine, without profits from football and men’s basketball, the rest of the athletic department wouldn’t be funded.
I don’t care about money
And another poster is partially correct, a majority of the men’s basketball revenue that goes to the AD is through TV contracts for the NCAAT and SEC revenue sharing. However, LSU doesn’t report all of this as MBB revenue, it is line itemized into other revenue as well. LSU MBB made a profit of 1+ million last statement. Baseball was in the red for almost 2 million.
Baseball will always be funded because it’s LSU, but the wasted opportunity to have larger profits for MBB is insane. Many schools without much history and on fairly equal footing MBB prior, invested in MBB and make significantly more profit.
Ex: Alabama hired a good coach that turned the program around and Bama MBB reported almost 10 million in profit last season.
quote:
Men's basketball generated a profit of $9,792,476 with $24,784,212 in revenue and $14,991,736 in expenses.
Alabama financials
Here is the LSU financial statement available online:
https://www.lsu.edu/administration/ofa/oas/far/supplement-financial-reports/fy2024/lsuam/auxiliary/athletics.pdf
Posted on 1/15/26 at 3:54 am to Sheppards Pie
Why do LSU baseball fans get so butthurt over basketball?
We are coming off 2 titles in 3 years and all they want to do is cry about how they think we should scrap basketball (which actually makes money) for baseball it’s so weird
We are coming off 2 titles in 3 years and all they want to do is cry about how they think we should scrap basketball (which actually makes money) for baseball it’s so weird
Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:15 am to JimTiger72
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Not a lot nobody watches baseball
Exactly. WBB has higher ratings.
Fact is everyone loves a winner , when Fargas was coaching women’s basketball, they were lucky to draw a couple thousand, now it’s a hot ticket .
If baseball started to suck , the stands would be empty.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 5:49 am to drizztiger
FYI there are more detailed reports on lsusports.net. In the most recent FY24 report basketball received 4.3MM for media rights, and no other sport besides football received an allocation in that line item.
Its NCAA distribution (driven by the tournament) was 2.8MM.
Those two items, which would be there if they never won a single game or sold a single ticket, made up 7.1MM of its 11.8MM in revenue. Its opex was 10.8MM.
This isn’t a basketball vs baseball post or argument, but the “LSU basketball is a money maker” line is a bit disingenuous given the facts noted above. Basketball could be doing much better financially given that its guaranteed income is enough to cover the majority of its expenses.
ETA: If LSU were serious about basketball it could probably spend more, make more, and still be at least as profitable as it is now…but have a better product to show for it.
Its NCAA distribution (driven by the tournament) was 2.8MM.
Those two items, which would be there if they never won a single game or sold a single ticket, made up 7.1MM of its 11.8MM in revenue. Its opex was 10.8MM.
This isn’t a basketball vs baseball post or argument, but the “LSU basketball is a money maker” line is a bit disingenuous given the facts noted above. Basketball could be doing much better financially given that its guaranteed income is enough to cover the majority of its expenses.
ETA: If LSU were serious about basketball it could probably spend more, make more, and still be at least as profitable as it is now…but have a better product to show for it.
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 5:59 am
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:02 am to MOT
You have a link, I’ll check it out. Thanks.
I did acknowledge that MBB is propped up by the TV and SEC contracts. But seeing Bama go from about the same profit to almost 10 million in a few years time shows the potential.
I did acknowledge that MBB is propped up by the TV and SEC contracts. But seeing Bama go from about the same profit to almost 10 million in a few years time shows the potential.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:09 am to drizztiger
This should work, follow the NCAA financial report link.
LINK
ETA: The only basketball vs baseball point I’ll make is compare the total non NCAA/SEC distributions and non media rights distribution revenue streams between the two and it shows baseball probably doubles, or nearly doubles, basketball. Let me know if you see the same.
That doesn’t mean I think baseball deserves more but it just underscores how much LSU is missing the boat with basketball.
LINK
ETA: The only basketball vs baseball point I’ll make is compare the total non NCAA/SEC distributions and non media rights distribution revenue streams between the two and it shows baseball probably doubles, or nearly doubles, basketball. Let me know if you see the same.
That doesn’t mean I think baseball deserves more but it just underscores how much LSU is missing the boat with basketball.
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 6:17 am
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:29 am to Sheppards Pie
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maha packs in 25k or more LSU fans whenever LSU baseball is in Omaha
The fans’ actions tell you what is important
And that's all well and great, our fans care more about college baseball than anyone in the country....by far and that's not a bad thing - it's a good thing and very rare in the landscape of college baseball - it's to be commended.
But nationwide a consistently successful basketball team can do more for the brand nationally without question - and that really does mean something. And to not tap into that and to make even more profit as some would suggest and just let men's basketball wallow in mediocrity, is IMHO ignorant and very short sighted.
Posted on 1/15/26 at 6:48 am to Pelican fan99
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Why do LSU baseball fans get so butthurt over basketball?
Exactly. I guess it’s an inferiority complex. I’m am LSU fan and want all sports to do well but I’m not a huge baseball fan at all , boring .
I prefer men’s hoops and women’s over baseball .
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:06 am to Sheppards Pie
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We already do
You don’t care if it gets better?
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:08 am to Sheppards Pie
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I get that, but 28k LSU fans showed up in Omaha for baseball last year. How many were in the PMAC for MBB tonight?
How many people show up at Alex Box Stadium when LSU is in a slump? Were you around when LSU put 40,000* people (an NCAA attendance record at the time) in the Superdome to watch the LSU basketball team play Notre Dame?
*It would've been more, but a fatal auto accident just west of the Bonnet Carre had traffic backed up for miles. The wreck wasn't cleared up for hours (traffic was at a standstill when we were driving home afterward) which caused a lot of people to miss the game.
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/15/26 at 7:43 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
I know when I grew up in BR in the late 70s, they didn't even PRINT baseball tickets. Seriously.
A few years later, basketball was the #1 sport on campus at LSU. And it wasn't particularly close.
A few years later, basketball was the #1 sport on campus at LSU. And it wasn't particularly close.
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