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re: The Polian Predicament

Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29999 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:20 pm to
Special teams is a cluster F. Polian can recruit, but we let a damn good special teams coach go to bring him in IMO. So far that decision has not worked out. (I am a Brian Kelly fan, just pointing out what I feel was a mistake here).
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68297 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

What other coach do you fire to accommodate that?


Maybe start with Sloan, Cooks, or Steeples.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31328 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Maybe start with Sloan, Cooks, or Steeples.


Why would you fire steeples?

The corners have played really well this yr.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68297 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Why would you fire steeples?


Primarily because someone would have to go, but also because you've already got a DL coach, safeties coach, and a DC to absorb the position. Similar for the other position coaches mentioned.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 3:01 pm to
Count me as one of Steeples people.

I think he’s been a good find and want to see what he can do as we continue to build DBU back up.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
17155 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 3:09 pm to
Need to make him tight end coach or some shite if he’s really so good at recruiting
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1598 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Dont fire him, keep him as recruiting coordinator.


This is the correct answer that so many of our fans who don't follow recruiting don't know. Keep him on as the head of recruiting and call the last guy and tell him LSU will pay him Aranda money.
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
1762 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 3:18 pm to
I don't remember Nader ever coaching a position
This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31328 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 3:22 pm to
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Primarily because someone would have to go, but also because you've already got a DL coach, safeties coach, and a DC to absorb the position. Similar for the other position coaches mentioned.



Steeples is a great recruiter and an up and coming coach.

I honestly don't think kelly will fire polian anyway so it's a moot point.

Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11110 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:10 pm to
If it was only the muffed punts I’d agree but when it’s every single special teams unit, it’s on the coach.

If one guys messes up it’s on them. if everyone is messing up, it’s on the coach.

Also we had 35 scholarship guys for our bowl game and we could still cover fricking kicks.

Plain and simple, the buck stops at the coach.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
6017 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 4:34 pm to
and lining up with too many players in the backfield in punt formation. Yes, that is a coaching issue along with the others.
The best coaches teach over and over and over and over again the basics of formation and rules. When a player is confronted with any of these, there has to be a simple thought immediately to what he has been taught over and over and over again.
Bad mental decisions on such things are a result of lazy coaching.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3984 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:14 pm to
Results are all that matter and our results are 117th in the country in special teams. I don’t care about his experience, whether it’s his fault guys are dropping kicks, personnel issues etc. his results indicate he needs to be replaced.
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2014
7060 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:46 pm to
The special teams coach should not be getting screen time, let alone being repeatedly shown throughout the broadcast.

The fact that we keep seeing his yellow hat on TV is alarming. Some of it’s player error, but there are so many problems on ST that need to be fixed.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 5:50 pm to
Where I agree it’s not all on Polian and the players have to execute, at the same time, you didn’t see the same chaotic, discombobulated mess when McMahon was S/T coach. So, not all S/T coaches are created equal.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7254 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:17 pm to
Kelly isn't going to fire him per se, LSU BoS might nudge that transition.
Posted by Marta1907
Member since Nov 2005
324 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:19 pm to
If we can't cover punts or kickoff returns just tell the them to kick it out of the end zone or punt it out of bounds EVERYTIME! It's just that simple.
Posted by TooSober
AA Meeting
Member since Oct 2015
627 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:02 pm to
I have seen this too.... on kickoffs they are 3/4 speed down the field... are we trying so hard to maintain spacing and lanes that we are late, allowing them to get to the 25 and beyond? Seems that way to me.
Posted by Puttmail_393
Member since Oct 2020
338 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:24 pm to
Fire that garbage b .!/‘a.
Posted by Puttmail_393
Member since Oct 2020
338 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:27 pm to
Good coaches make average and below average players good/great. last time i checked Polian’s salary 625,000. Come to work prepared or hit the door. This isn't the welfare office.
Posted by Puttmail_393
Member since Oct 2020
338 posts
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:31 pm to
The players not catching the ball IS HIS FAULT! we pay him 625,000 of our hard earned tax dollars to produce quality players by teaching them how to play the sport.
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