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re: The only LSU MBB coach to not make the NCAAT in the last 40 years is CoachMc. Btw, he i
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:21 pm to The Shaqtus
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:21 pm to The Shaqtus
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I bet they would've loved basketball in the 1940s
Absolutely. Who wouldn’t love watching a bunch of 5’9 un-athletic klansmen with two left feet who’d trip trying to jump over a sheet of paper, throw a god damn medicine ball at a peach basket?
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:49 pm to covtgr
That’s just incorrect
Posted on 2/2/25 at 4:51 pm to drizztiger
Just make the tourney consistently and don’t make the program an embarrassment. Thats all I ask of basketball.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:16 am to Madking
I was being facetious
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:26 am to covtgr
OIC my bad
Posted on 2/3/25 at 10:27 am to drizztiger
You’re missing the fact that he’s a really nice guy though. That matters!!
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:00 pm to WhySoSerious
There's also a racial component to their hatred of basketball They fancy themselves a Tommy Tanks "good ole boy".
Anyone with a functioning brain knows that men's basketball is the second most popular sport in the nation. Most sports fans couldn't tell you who won the college world series last year.
Anyone with a functioning brain knows that men's basketball is the second most popular sport in the nation. Most sports fans couldn't tell you who won the college world series last year.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:16 pm to drizztiger
And the only one not to make it in his first 3 years, except Dale who it took until his 7th year.
In fairness to Dale it was much tougher to make it to the NCAA tourney in his day, but I would follow that with the only year in his first 6 you could have made and argument he would have made it in with today's standard and size of field was year 6 and that would have been a full on bubble team for sure.
In fairness to Dale it was much tougher to make it to the NCAA tourney in his day, but I would follow that with the only year in his first 6 you could have made and argument he would have made it in with today's standard and size of field was year 6 and that would have been a full on bubble team for sure.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:19 pm to dukeg7213
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People in the south and Louisiana specifically give more of a frick about college baseball than college basketball.
If Basketball was having any kind of success, the reverse would probably be true.
Less than a hundred fans were attending LSU home baseball games prior to Skip's arrival. At that same time Dale had The P-Mac rocking and consistently selling out.
All this to say- LSU fans love a winner.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:23 pm to covtgr
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You’re acting like there’s some kind of magic portal where teams can find transfers to fill holes and field competitive teams. McMahon had zero players on scholarship for a couple weeks 3 years ago. It was always going to be a 4 year rebuild (unless there’s an injury next season in which case year 4 doesn’t count and I meant 5 year rebuild).
You know who you really feel for this year? Vanderbilt fans. Despite only returning two players from last year's team after they fired their HC, the new HC is having a pretty good season. Were they eligible, Vandy might actually make the NCAA Tournament. Unfortunately, just like with McMahon at LSU in his first season, this year doesn't count for Vanderbilt
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:26 pm to The Shaqtus
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no one gives a frick about college baseball outside of the SEC and like 5 other programs in the country?
well we are in the SEC, so what's your point? That we should care more/less because other people elsewhere care more/less?
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:43 pm to drizztiger
Never disliked an LSU coach so much. Praying for a 1-17 record so he is canned
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:04 pm to lsufball19
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well we are in the SEC, so what's your point? That we should care more/less because other people elsewhere care more/less?
It was a response to this comment...
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All 2,000 of you who care about basketball should start an NIL collective and go buy players
The rest of us will care about football and baseball
IMO, the implication is that no one should really care about LSU basketball because the football and baseball programs have been really good for the last several decades. The reality is there is room to care for BOTH. Baseball is not my favorite sport, but I'm glad LSU is performing well because it allows the athletic department the opportunity to be one of the few schools with three potential profit-making sports. If both baseball and basketball were at the pinnacle of their respective marketplaces the revenue basketball would bring in would far exceed baseball. So there absolutely is reason to invest in basketball. Not at the expense of baseball. But to add on to the financial success it has as well.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:13 pm to drizztiger
You know it's bad when Coach McFraud can't even accomplish something Trent Jonhson and Johnny Jones did
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:45 pm to Miglez
Jonny Jones was not a very good coach for us and even he had a 19 win season out of the gate after inheriting a dumpster fire. MM has had 3 seasons, 2 top 15 recruiting classes and can’t even be competitive vs mediocre opponents. It’s time to cut bait and restart. Hopefully the admin does a better job identifying the next coach.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:59 pm to Madking
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Jonny Jones was not a very good coach for us and even he had a 19 win season out of the gate after inheriting a dumpster fire
A 19 win season with a member of the marching band who had 0 basketball experience starting at center. Honestly that was his best coaching job.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:59 pm to covtgr
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You’re acting like there’s some kind of magic portal where teams can find transfers to fill holes and field competitive teams. McMahon had zero players on scholarship for a couple weeks 3 years ago. It was always going to be a 4 year rebuild (unless there’s an injury next season in which case year 4 doesn’t count and I meant 5 year rebuild).
There is a magic portal where teams can find transfers to fill holes and field competitive teams, except it's not magic, it's real.
Almost every team in the SEC just did that, including us, but the difference is those other teams have a coach that can lead them to wins. UF, Ole Miss, MSU, UGA, Vandy, Mizzou, all are significantly better than us and are in either year 2 or 3 with their new coach. There is no acceptable excuse for how bad we are this year
Posted on 2/4/25 at 3:24 pm to lsudave1
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A 19 win season with a member of the marching band who had 0 basketball experience starting at center. Honestly that was his best coaching job.
The SEC wasn't as good as it is this season (only 3 teams made the NCAAT). That said, LSU's roster in all three of McMahon's seasons has been better than one really good player (Johnny O'Bryant), two sub-6'0 guards (Hickey and Stringer), a 6'5 (at very best) PF in Shavon Coleman, a member of the marching band as the starting center, and Charles Carmouche. LSU went 9-9 in conf. play that year with the only team who really dick-slapped them being the SEC champ, Florida. That's why I kind of pushback when everyone says Jones was the worst LSU coach. He underachieved with some of his rosters, no doubt. But he was never awful until his final season when everyone, players included, knew it was a lame-duck year before his his eventual firing. Trent Johnson had his one great season, but the two that followed were awful. Barring the unexpected, McMahon is going to have two awful seasons like Johnson. Unfortunately, he won't have that one great season to at least celebrate.
The curse of being an LSU basketball fan means you have a good idea of what bad basketball looks like. To anyone who wasn't willing to subscribe to the asinine notion that "year 1 doesn't count" you saw that right out of the gate. That LSU team should have never been THAT bad, and almost assuredly wouldn't have under almost every other HC in the league.
You knew after Johnson's 3rd year the program was going nowhere. It didn't. Yet, we had to endure a bad (though less bad) 4th year and would have had to endure a bad 5th year had Johnson not been smart enough to see the writing on the wall. You knew after Jones's 4th year when he underachieved with the Simmons team that completely gave up at the end of the season that he wasn't going to ever be the guy who made LSU a great program. Yet, again, fans had to endure a horrible 5th season that everyone knew would be bad before it started.
Those who experienced that know there is little reason to carry the McMahon tenure over one more year. Even if he somehow becomes the luckiest coach in America and LSU doesn't have any injuries or transfers, while the rest of the SEC collapses around him, his ceiling is probably around a .500 SEC and 20 win overall team. And that is if everything goes right!
He's seems like a good guy. If you are an LSU basketball fan you wanted him to succeed. But it hasn't and there are no signs it will. It would be best for both sides to go their separate ways at the end of the season. There's no reason to prolong the inevitable another year.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 3:44 pm to lsufball19
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well we are in the SEC, so what's your point? That we should care more/less because other people elsewhere care more/less?
No, not at all. Context matters.
It was in response to the all too familiar "durr is it baseball season, durr bouncy ball, durr who cares" like comments that for whatever reason some "LSU fans" love to recycle every year.
The point is that acting like the MBB program is some throwaway program that no one should care about is just ridiculous. If you want to talk about the LSU "brand" more people at the national level are interested in Livvy Dunne prancing around in tights than anyone on the baseball team. Sorry, it's just reality.
For some odd reason, some baseball/football only fans are terrified of basketball unseeting baseball as the No. 2 at LSU. I alluded as to why I think that may be previously in the thread, but I will let you draw your own conclusions.
Posted on 2/4/25 at 3:52 pm to Alt26
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Despite only returning two players from last year's team after they fired their HC, the new HC is having a pretty good season. Were they eligible, Vandy might actually make the NCAA Tournament. Unfortunately, just like with McMahon at LSU in his first season, this year doesn't count for Vanderbilt
Yeah, and LSU actually ended up getting 3 players return, kudos to CMM on that, but I'm pretty sure most anyone we would have hired could have talked 2 or 3 players back.
And not like Vandy tore it up in the portal or recruiting - at least according to rankings.....ours first year under CMM were considerably better.
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