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re: The NIL mess will end with an NFL type solution
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:15 pm to penman
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:15 pm to penman
The only reason the salary cap is legal in the NFL is because it is part of a collective bargaining agreement that has been contractually agreed to by all parties, including the player’s union. Unless something like this happens, the courts would strike down a salary cap just like they have done with the other restrictions.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:17 pm to penman
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The current NIL system is not sustainable
Well, it’s growing.
You may want to reassess whether you think it’s unsustainable…or just want it to be.
FYI, I hate what is going on. But this isn’t beings driven from players demanding money; it’s being driven by those who want to to influence the landscape. That tells me it’s sustainable.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:20 pm to nicholastiger
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or the NFL could start their own minor leagues and do away with college football as some schools may say this is not our mission anymore and get out of the athletic business altogether
Would love for this to happen.
Quite frankly its the only way to go back.
Every major institution drops athletics and NFL/NBA create minor leagues, the players will quickly learn the only reason people gave a frick about them is because of the colors they wore
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:22 pm to nicholastiger
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or the NFL could start their own minor leagues and do away with college football as some schools may say this is not our mission anymore and get out of the athletic business altogether
You don’t get it.
There’s no money for minor league football. There’s tons of money for college football.
Even if you convinced the NFL to do it (the won’t) What incentive would a player have to play in this minor league.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:26 pm to des4271
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This is actually a better option though, if there would just be a set amount each player can get, the under the table money wouldn’t be as substantial
You are dreaming
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:37 pm to TSmith
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Make football part of the university’s curriculum.
Among many other hurdles, that would require approval from the faculty senate.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:03 pm to penman
Colleges need to get out of athletics completely. These kids need to contract with agents/sponsoring companies and then get marketed to professional teams. College sports AKA amateur sports would be NAIA schools.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:06 pm to penman
That could be an antitrust issue, because it’s conspiring to limit compensation.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:36 pm to penman
All a salary cap does is limit the amount a team can play its entire team.the colleges are not paying the kids. NIL is more of an endorsement deal that doesn’t affect salary cap. How can anyone limit endorsement contracts which is what the NIL essentially is?
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 1:47 pm to penman
If I wanted to watch the NFL I would watch the NFL.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:17 pm to lostinbr
The SC ruling against the NCAA opened the floodgates to what we have now because it became obvious to any first year law student that the NCAA had lost and to keep in doing what they were doing would result in even bigger judgments.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:19 pm to Salty Spec
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Only on paper. Then it will go back to under the table/ off the books payments!!
This is exactly what will happen.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:31 pm to Alt26
[img]How is that going to be implemented?[/img]
exactly. Salary caps in sports do not affect endorsement deals.
exactly. Salary caps in sports do not affect endorsement deals.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 2:55 pm to Alt26
quote:Yeah, but college isn't a long career, it's 3-5 years.quote:
Explain to me in simple terms what motivation the players, who currently hold all of the leverage, have to unionize and collectively bargain?
At the moment, very little. They have great marketplace. They have the freedom to negotiate ever increasing revenues without the burden of being tied into an "employment" contract.
However, the question to be posed is can the business model, long term, survive? At some point you might start to run out of other people's money OR those people get tired of committing ever increasing amounts for diminishing returns on investment. If I pay $3M for the best HS QB to attend my favorite school, only to see him not play and transfer to a competitor after 1 year, I might become a little more conservative with my money.
Bryce Underwood doesn't care if Michigan NIL runs out of money in 2030, and Diego Pavia doesn't care if Vandy's are broke tomorrow. They got their deals; and as for the next group of guys- if LSU and Bama can't afford to pay, I guess they go to SMU and Oregon.
I mean, SMU didn't even care about TV money to join the ACC, they wanted a seat at the table. Their boosters have enough oil money to field a playoff team every year.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:07 pm to Salty Spec
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Then it will go back to under the table/ off the books payments!!
It doesn't need to be under the table. Will advertising income be considered against the cap?
When NFL players do local advertising for local companies that income is not counted against the NFL cap.
Will the same apply to college athletes? If so we are back to NIL.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:10 pm to SG_Geaux
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If I wanted to watch the NFL I would watch the NFL.
All of the smaller college programs should start a new league that is 100% amateur like the old days. Let the bigger college programs be NFL-lite.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:14 pm to Geauxldninja
Maybe I'm not seeing the big picture or understanding NIL, but billionaire boosters handing out million dollar bills is different than being in a commercial or signing autographs. I don't mind NIL deals.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:24 pm to doubleb
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The SC ruling against the NCAA opened the floodgates to what we have now because it became obvious to any first year law student that the NCAA had lost and to keep in doing what they were doing would result in even bigger judgments.
The fact remains that the NCAA started allowing NIL on 6/30/21 because state NIL laws went into effect the next day.
If you want to say that Kavanaugh’s opinion made clear to the NCAA that they were going to have a tough time in court moving forward, sure. No argument there. I’m certainly not saying it was insignificant or anything.
But for 2 years now I have been seeing people (including the media) say that the Alston ruling made NIL legal when it’s simply not true. If the state-level laws hadn’t gone into effect on 7/1/21, the NCAA would not have started allowing NIL on 6/30/21. They probably would have been sued eventually anyway and probably would have lost, but that’s not what happened.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:25 pm to SmoothBox
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NIL is more of an endorsement deal that doesn’t affect salary cap. How can anyone limit endorsement contracts which is what the NIL essentially is?
I don’t know, but it shouldn’t be a contract specifically revolving around a commitment to play for a school. I know they just work around it, but maybe they should implement something they can go after.
It’s such an unfair competitive balance issue when it’s pay for play to attend certain schools. Professional sports don’t even have this issue. I don’t care if they were paying under the table, it was never this ridiculous. Big difference now. Millions and millions just to get top recruits out of high school last second? Yikes.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:52 pm to penman
At this point, just do away with the whole thing.
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