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re: The next 6 basketball games will tell us where this thing’s really headed
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:01 am to MikeTheTiger71
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:01 am to MikeTheTiger71
quote:LSU is 12-31 in the SEC the last 2.5 seasons. It’s not as bad as it appears.
No, the program isn’t Top 25, but it also isn’t as bad as 1-6 might appear.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:36 am to drizztiger
There is really no game left on our schedule that is clearly a win. We could easily finish 1-17 in the SEC.
But, there is still enough fight in the players that we could win at most 2 of those games at home. We will not win any road games, IMO.
But, there is still enough fight in the players that we could win at most 2 of those games at home. We will not win any road games, IMO.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:33 am to drizztiger
The record is insanely bad. In the modern era this 2.5 stretch is the worst in our history
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:44 am to S
LSU should go 3-3 at worst over that stretch.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:46 am to GeorgeWest
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win at most 2
we will win at least 3 of those games over the next 6.
Also, in the SEC, there are no gimme games period. The #1 team in the country was a 12 point favorite over the supposed worst team in the SEC. Let that sink in.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:50 am to S
Even if the team wins 2 games out of the next 6, the program is headed to the trash under McMahon.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 5:50 am to MikeTheTiger71
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No, the program isn’t Top 25, but it also isn’t as bad as 1-6 might appear
The mechanism for our failure is too easy for other teams to force. Which is why less talented teams in the league still beat us.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:01 am to Mats86
The Mcmen will have excuses for MM not matter what. MM is the excuse king for them, no other LSU coach gets any excuses for failure because MM gets them all
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:06 am to Mandtgr47
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we will win a least 3 of those games
Extremely doubtful. Texas, South Carolina, Georgia and the other have-nots will beat us like a DRUM!
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:09 am to MikeTheTiger71
quote:That’s impossible, Missouri’s coach is only in his 3rd season. We all know it takes a minimum of 4 years to be in the top of the SEC.
Missouri is in 3rd place in the conference at 5-2 and is 15-0 overall at home. The fact that people thought it was an “easy” game beforehand does not, in fact, make it so
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:20 am to drizztiger
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LSU is 12-31 in the SEC the last 2.5 seasons. It’s not as bad as it appears.
do you think posting this number every few hours will make sure everyone knows. Just for the record, whether 12-31 or 18-25, we know it has not been good. WE know there is a problem. WE just aren't like you in that we are not emotionally unstable, therefore we don't run to the board every few hours sky screaming.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:25 am to Mandtgr47
Terrific fact filled response as usual. What a waste of space you are.
I responded to a dude saying 1-6 isn’t as bad as it appears. Whitewashing 1-6 certainly deserves a reminder that we’re 12-31 last two and a half seasons.
I responded to a dude saying 1-6 isn’t as bad as it appears. Whitewashing 1-6 certainly deserves a reminder that we’re 12-31 last two and a half seasons.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:45 am to drizztiger
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LSU is 12-31 in the SEC the last 2.5 seasons. It’s not as bad as it appears.
The question is whether the program is making progress. The next 6 games will tell us more about that than the first 6 did. I know everyone wants a quick fix but I’d rather a sustainable foundation be laid. I’m not saying I believe McMahon has done that. I just don’t think the way the first 7 games of the conference schedule were laid out tell us one way or another. 4 of the first 6 on the road followed by the #1 team in the country and 6 Top 25 opponents is going to be tough on any team. It’s simultaneously possible to be 1-6 against that schedule and making progress as a program. Any NCAA tournament bubble team likely would be 2-5. If they can’t manage 3-3 over the next 6, that’s a different story.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 6:46 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:50 am to drizztiger
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That’s impossible, Missouri’s coach is only in his 3rd season. We all know it takes a minimum of 4 years to be in the top of the SEC.
And what did they do last year? It looks like the Missouri coach is taking a feast or famine approach. That’s certainly better than all famine, but he hasn’t proven he can build a sustainable program. I don’t know if McMahon’s approach is working, but the inconsistency of Missouri’s program isn’t proof of a better way or a quicker path to sustainability.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 6:51 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:52 am to Mats86
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The mechanism for our failure is too easy for other teams to force. Which is why less talented teams in the league still beat us.
Let’s actually start playing those less talented teams and see what the results are before casting judgment. If they don’t go at least 3-3 over the next 6, that will be a complete failure.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:00 am to MikeTheTiger71
quote:So you want to take his worst year, that's fine. He went 0-18.
And what did they do last year?
How about his first year? NCAAT. How about his 3rd year? On track for NCAAT.
So apparently you can be at the absolute bottom, 0-18 in the SEC and turn it around in one year. It doesn't take 4 years. Understood.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:05 am to MikeTheTiger71
quote:I don't disagree with this, but why aren't we one of the top 30 like some of the other upstart programs?
It’s simultaneously possible to be 1-6 against that schedule and making progress as a program.
You use Missouri as an example of not being an easy win, why are they 3rd in the SEC as you pointed out and we're 3rd to last in the SEC and they beat us by 16 points. Both coaches are in their exact same year of tenure at their respective programs.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:04 am to drizztiger
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So you want to take his worst year, that's fine. He went 0-18.
No, I’m talking about the pattern of inconsistency he has established. That’s what feast or famine means. He hasn’t proven he can sustain a program. McMahon is clearly trying to build a sustainable program, not gamble on quick fixes. I’m in no way saying he has succeeded in that approach, but someone else being wildly inconsistent taking a different approach tells us absolutely nothing about how long it should take to build a sustainable foundation.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:08 am to MikeTheTiger71
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It’s simultaneously possible to be 1-6 against that schedule and making progress as a program.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:09 am to drizztiger
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I don't disagree with this, but why aren't we one of the top 30 like some of the other upstart programs? You use Missouri as an example of not being an easy win, why are they 3rd in the SEC as you pointed out and we're 3rd to last in the SEC and they beat us by 16 points. Both coaches are in their exact same year of tenure at their respective programs.
I addressed that when I said, “I know everyone wants a quick fix but I’d rather a sustainable foundation be laid.” I also addressed it in my other responses to you about Missouri’s inconsistency. They were better Year 1 and Year 3 and worse Year 2. It tells in nothing about where each program will be in Year 4 or beyond.
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