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The new playoff system will help college football...

Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:47 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:47 am
Will a twelve team playoff lead to fewer players skipping the bowls in order to focus on the NFL draft?

I believe so. It will be extremely bad publicity for a player to announce he is skipping out on his team to focus on himself.

Obviously, top players will skip the Sominex Siesta Bowl if their team is not in the playoffs, but those minor bowl games are still more about extra practice and giving reps to the players coming back next year, so that is no big deal.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:50 am to
It will absolutely help college football and I could even see the playoff expanding again in the future. At the end of the day the bowls are only good for bragging rights by fans. Many players see it as a game that means nothing and don't want to get hurt for no reason and I get it. Being in the playoffs changes that completly for the teams that make it.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:54 am to
Should really go to 16. Teams ranked 9-16 are all about the same and adding four more teams doesn’t add to the length of the playoff. All you’ll be doing is giving the top 4 a 1st round game.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 7:55 am to
A playoff game in Tiger Stadium would be electric
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:12 am to
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A playoff game in Tiger Stadium would be electric


I was talking to a friend last evening about this. Tiger stadium would be one fun environment for that kind of home game. In fact when the 12 team playoff starts those first four games in those home stadiums should have some wild finishes. Much like what we see in the the NFL wildcard weekend. Will be a fun weekend of college football. .
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:17 am to
Expanding to 4 has killed CFB somewhat. 12+ will finish off the job.

An expanded playoff only makes sense if you create a new super division where 2-4 losses will be the norm (due to increased schedule difficulty).
Posted by HoustonTigerNKaty
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:37 am to
It will destroy the best, most unique aspect of CFB- every game counts. Sorry, if Bama-LSU or Tenn-GA (this year’s defining games for SECCG), OSU Michigan, or any conference CG dont matter, that means that there are fewer butts in seats, fewer people watching the games on TV.

Not to mention, this really does amplify the blue bloods.

When the 4 Team playoff started in 2014, there have been very few competitive semi-finals and truly only 3 competitive championship games. How is adding more boring games good for the sport?

In before March Madness— when did a Cinderella team actually win the tournament? At the risk of pissing off the ULL / Tulane twats you simply don’t play the same football game as any team in the playoffs. Even TCU has triple the budget if Tulane. Over a 10 year time frame thats $200 million more invested in football than Tulane.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 8:54 am to
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It will destroy the best, most unique aspect of CFB- every game counts
but the massive problem with your argument is that some teams play much harder schedules than others. And yes, I'm primarily talking about the SEC.

Is a 1-loss LSU or Alabama (we play each other, so one of those will always have a loss) better than an undefeated TCU or Oregon? Probably.

With only a 12-game schedule and virtually no Power 5 OOC scheduling, the weaker conferences are at a huge advantage, and the stronger conferences are at a disadvantage regarding overall record.

An expanded playoff lets those deserving teams have a chance at the championship.

And you do realize that EVERY other sport has a playoff to determine their champion, including FCS, D-II and D-III college football. It's just FBS that has had a screwy system for decades.
Posted by MItiger92
Michigan
Member since Jun 2021
381 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:16 am to
I think Josh Pate made a good point on this. While, more football is great for the fans it might not be good for the players playing it. Some teams may have to play 17 games if they make it to the championship...15 games is already a liability for these players. SO I think it would have the opposite effect.
I would rather take out a couple cupcake games to shorten the regular season in order to keep these guys healthy.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 9:31 am to
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Some teams may have to play 17 games if they make it to the championship...15 games is already a liability for these players. SO I think it would have the opposite effect.
nah, that's a weak argument.

FCS has had a 24 team playoff for years.

With an 11 game regular season schedule, that means even the FCS playoff teams that get a bye would have to play 15 games to win the championship, and others would play 16 games.

Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3292 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:17 am to
You have to keep byes in play imo. There needs to be reward/incentive for the teams at the top to try to discourage NFL type resting of players in week 18, etc... Byes do that.

I think EVERY playoff game should be played at the higher seeds stadium. Does LSU want to travel to Columbus, Ohio in Dec/Jan??? Then play the championship at a pre determined site, basically a college super bowl.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
35634 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:37 am to
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The new playoff system will help college football...
Overall it will contribute to the ruin of college football. In your one isolated instance, yes, it will probably help in that regard. But note, that it was the playoffs that started the opting out process in the first place.

Prior to the BCS or the playoffs, there were no opt-outs.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 11:14 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:39 am to
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A playoff game in Tiger Stadium would be electric
It had better be, because the importance of the other 8 home games will be greatly diminished.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:41 am to
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Expanding to 4 has killed CFB somewhat. 12+ will finish off the job.

An expanded playoff only makes sense if you create a new super division where 2-4 losses will be the norm (due to increased schedule difficulty).
Glad we can agree on this board.

On the other one, not so much.

You do know that this "super division" you referenced is the end game, right? It's why the BCS/playoff era was created.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 11:17 am
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:46 am to
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It will destroy the best, most unique aspect of CFB- every game counts.


It will not. This reads like you just buy whatever the media and braintrust of CFB has been selling you all these years about the “sanctity of the regular season” without giving it critical thought. That is simply not true. A true playoff is what literally every other sport does successfully, and often is the best part of the season.

In CFB the top 4 get byes, and the next 4 get a playoff game at home. First off, either of those sound like an amazing opportunity to play for. EVERY single game still matters to determine who those teams are though. One slip up and you could lose out on this.

Imagine a playoff-bound LSU overlooks and loses against A&M in the final week like this year. Now suddenly we’re #9 or 10 and have to travel to Penn State or Michigan in December instead of hosting a game. See why it remains important to win every game?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
35634 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:12 am to
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It will destroy the best, most unique aspect of CFB- every game counts.



It will not. A true playoff is what literally every other sport does successfully, and often is the best part of the season.
You're making his point.

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Imagine a playoff-bound LSU overlooks and loses against A&M in the final week like this year. Now suddenly we’re #9 or 10 and have to travel to Penn State or Michigan in December instead of hosting a game. See why it remains important to win every game?


In your scenario, a loss is an aww shucks moment, at least we still make the playoffs.

In the century that set college football apart from all other sports, that loss and there is no chance for a championship....nor should there be.

That's the difference.

Playoff proponents are incapable of comprehending what made college football the greatest game on earth.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2297 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 11:27 am to
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And you do realize that EVERY other sport has a playoff to determine their champion, including FCS, D-II and D-III college football. It's just FBS that has had a screwy system for decades.

I’ve been pointing this out for years. 2 and then 4 is absurd. The FCS has 24.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:01 pm to
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You're making his point


The playoffs should be the best part of the season, it’s reserved for the best teams that have earned it on the field through their entire body of work.

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In the century that set college football apart from all other sports, that loss and there is no chance for a championship....nor should there be.


You mean the century when we just arbitrarily decided who was champion based off of “the eye test” and a popularity contest? So 90% of teams never even had a shot even if they did go unbeaten.

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Playoff proponents are incapable of comprehending what made college football the greatest game on earth


What makes college football so great is the atmosphere, particularly in big time on campus games. Tailgating, bitter rivalries, unique time-honored traditions among schools, fall Saturdays with action all day long. There’s nothing else like it in sports.

A playoff changes none of that. None. The Alabama game in 2022 was no less a huge deal with national implications this year as it was in 2011 or 2012 before the CFP.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3662 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:26 pm to
Playoffs will destroy college football along with NIL bullshite.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18140 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Playoffs will destroy college football
nope, not even close. Playoffs greatly enhance the college game.
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along with NIL bullshite
now this I agree with, in combination with the immediate-play transfer. With NIL and the transfer portal, every player is effectively a free agent every year.

That's what is destroying the game, not the playoffs.
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