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The New Philosophy Re: 12 Team Playoff
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:33 pm
There are so many reasons to be excited about this new dynamic. Must see big time games galore December/January and on campus games holy cow. But, what’s really intriguing is for an LSU, gone are the days of a second loss all but terminating natty chances. Now 10-2 should play, and it’s all about rolling hot as the regular season concluded.
Think about some past teams that very well coulda won it all with this. Off the top of my head: 2001, 2005, 2006, 2011 assuming someone else knocked out bama, maybe 2013 and 2018 have to go back and look
Think about some past teams that very well coulda won it all with this. Off the top of my head: 2001, 2005, 2006, 2011 assuming someone else knocked out bama, maybe 2013 and 2018 have to go back and look
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:35 pm to ScottAndrew
For the people who say it diminishes the regular season, it actually does the opposite. So many more games late in the regular season will have meaning now.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:37 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I agree. For most teams, the margin for error didn’t really change. For LSU and their ilk it got just a little more breathable. And Bama isn’t the only exam anymore
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:35 pm to ScottAndrew
I wasn’t happy because this was going to guarantee Alabama a playoff spot every year, but now that is not the case.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:39 pm to ScottAndrew
Had saints tickets for years and the only games I ever enjoyed were the playoff games. They were on a different level. But a playoff game in tiger stadium would easily blow that out the water.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:40 pm to ScottAndrew
quote:It also opens the door for others as well.
But, what’s really intriguing is for an LSU, gone are the days of a second loss all but terminating natty chances.
I looking forward to this but it cuts all ways- as it should.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:31 pm to ScottAndrew
I think the playoffs will be awesome, but the game may be diminished in the regular season.
1.) Conference championships don’t mean nearly as much if your team looks like an at-large anyway. An 11-1 team in the conference championship game may actually consider resting starters depending on the CG time and results of other CGs played before.
2.) Teams that look like at-large picks going into game 12 may rest starters for that game if they won’t be in the CCG anyway. Thanks to the infinite wisdom of this year’s committee, making sure starters are healthy for the playoffs is of utmost importance.
1.) Conference championships don’t mean nearly as much if your team looks like an at-large anyway. An 11-1 team in the conference championship game may actually consider resting starters depending on the CG time and results of other CGs played before.
2.) Teams that look like at-large picks going into game 12 may rest starters for that game if they won’t be in the CCG anyway. Thanks to the infinite wisdom of this year’s committee, making sure starters are healthy for the playoffs is of utmost importance.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:48 pm to Tigersgulfcoast
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But a playoff game in tiger stadium would easily blow that out the water.
If I remember correctly, let's hope that LSU does not have a playoff game in Tiger Stadium. I believe the top 4 teams get byes and the next 8 play obviously in 4 games with the teams 5-8 getting the home field in those 4 games. All the rest of the playoffs are in current major bowl sites except the NC game is bid on each year. That is how Houston which has never hosted a major bowl game...sorry, the Astro-Bluebonnet Bowl doesn't count...got the NC this year. But the quarterfinals and semifinals I believe will be in the Cotton, Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Rose, and Peach locations.
I would prefer LSU to be in that top 4 group and not have to play the extra game...possibility of losing, possibility of players getting injured, etc.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:58 pm to Copernicus
That's why you have to make seeding SUPER important. This means keeping the field unbalanced so there are always byes. The higher seed should also play at home until the neutral site "super bowl".
By doing this, the regular season will remain exciting.
By doing this, the regular season will remain exciting.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:58 pm to ScottAndrew
8 team playoff would have been perfect.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:07 pm to tigahlovah
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The higher seed should also play at home until the neutral site "Super bowl"
Not going to work that way nor should it IMO...just looked it up to make sure. The higher seed only plays 1 game at home. 12 plays at 5... 11 plays at 6...10 plays at 7...9 plays at 6. One round of home games for 4 teams ..that is it!
2024 schedule:
Quarterfinals: Fiesta Bowl, Peach Bowl, Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl
Semifinals: Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl
2025 schedule
Quarterfinals: Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl
Semifinals: Fiesta Bowl, Peach Bowl
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:34 pm to NotaStarGazer
I realize that's not how it will work. But that's how it needs to work.
Top 4 have a bye. Teams will go all out to be as high as possible, certainly want to be top 4.
If EVERY GAME is played at the higher seed's stadium until the championship, how important will it be to finish as high as possible?
How bad does LSU want to go play at ann arbor in December???
This would maintain the significance of the regular season as much as it's possible.
Top 4 have a bye. Teams will go all out to be as high as possible, certainly want to be top 4.
If EVERY GAME is played at the higher seed's stadium until the championship, how important will it be to finish as high as possible?
How bad does LSU want to go play at ann arbor in December???
This would maintain the significance of the regular season as much as it's possible.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:29 pm to tigahlovah
Just win the SEC and that guarantees you to the QF's. Just win the SEC.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:32 pm to ScottAndrew
quote:
For most teams, the margin for error didn’t really change.
um, we can now lose the 2 biggest games on our schedule and still get in.
that’s a HUGE swing in margin of error.
if you walk out of the stadium after a loss thinking “no big deal, we’re still in” in stead of “if everything falls right we could get in” , then you have literally just removed the value of the regular season.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:21 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Yeah, but let's go ahead and project how things will go for everyone.
For the people who say it diminishes the regular season, it actually does the opposite. So many more games late in the regular season will have meaning now.
Figure 10-2 is your ticket into the playoffs, if you are a major program.
LSU in 2024 plays USC and UCLA, plus conference games which now include Texas and/or Oklahoma in addition to the current conference teams (I forget which, not relevant, we get one).
Penn State plays creampuffs, then Big 10 games.
Penn State will get 10-2, will make the playoff. I would be willing to bet on that right now. Likely a road game, but they're in.
LSU might be in serious trouble by midseason, possibly desperation mode. Very likely will have 9-10 wins in the regular season.
9 is out, 10 is in.
In the future, LSU would be insane and idiots if they continue to schedule anyone with a pulse OOC. Take the Penn State path, you become an annual playoff participant. Which would mean 3-4 boring OOC home games... which would mean the season is diminished (for many).
Or take hard games, which would be exciting to look forward to, and great if we win,... but would take the air out of the sails if we lose. And keep in mind, not making the playoffs in the expanded format will mean a ton of opt outs, basically an Indy Bowl feel (there will be no more "major" or NY6 bowls. You're in, or you had a bad year. No in-between).
Nobody cares about a late run, there's not even a path via divisional winners to make ground up. It's the best record, that's it. You're competing against teams in the conference you haven't played, who had weaker OOC schedules.
Hell, there's still a chance you can go 10-2 (one OOC loss), make the conference championship over a couple other 10-2 teams you didn't play, LOSE, and you might be out. You'd be 10-3, someone like Texas might be 10-2. You made the conference championship with a 1 loss conference record, but after that loss you may slip behind them in the committee's eyes... because they pick (for example) UGA at 12-1 or 13-0, Alabama 10-2, Texas 10-2, Oklahoma 10-2, and they're not taking a 5th SEC team.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:39 pm to Copernicus
quote:
) Conference championships don’t mean nearly as much if your team looks like an at-large anyway.
Actually you are wrong. Conference Championship games are ultra important. Conference Champions earn the top 4 seeds and a bye.
You can go 12-0 in the regular season, be ranked #1 and if you lose the conference championship game you will be playing in the first round as a 5 or 6 seed.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:26 am to ScottAndrew
That 2006 LSU squad...wow
Finished #3. Played four top 10 teams (at the time of the game)
Should've been in the SEC title game but for the most corrupt officiating in Jordan Hare.
No one wanted to play them at the end, least of all Brady Quinn and the Fighting Irish, who we completely de-pants'd.
Them and 2011 - best teams to not win a title.
Finished #3. Played four top 10 teams (at the time of the game)
Should've been in the SEC title game but for the most corrupt officiating in Jordan Hare.
No one wanted to play them at the end, least of all Brady Quinn and the Fighting Irish, who we completely de-pants'd.
Them and 2011 - best teams to not win a title.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:40 am to ScottAndrew
Bama sure wouldn’t have a month plus to lock in and focus on lsu with all the locker room motivation of avenging the 9-6 loss.
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