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re: The myth of the great recruiting classes of the past

Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38336 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

quote:

Les’s classes were overrated




2005-2016: Any idiot can win 10 games a year with ALL THIS TALENT!!!


2016-present: Miles classes overrated, roster in shambles, holes everywhere. We’re young. 8-4 would be great.


Oh and tough schedule




It's the corollary to
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 3:29 pm to
Not sure why you posted this considering that O has now been responsible for three recruiting classes on the roster.

2016 - Recruiting Coordinator
2017 - Head Coach
2018 - Head Coach

I guess we will finally see what O can do with "his" players this season, if you are to be believed.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:57 pm to
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like him too but am more partial to Son


so underrated. would start at most premier league teams.


Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 5:58 pm to
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Flynn , off line, rb’


so saban won with dinardo's players?

let me guess ....

you dont apply this ignorant logic to other lsu coaches


miles took the 04 players that saban lost 3 games with and had a 1 loss regular season while dealing with katrina and won the west.


04 staff of Jimbo, muschamp,smart, and saban lost 3.


This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 6:03 pm
Posted by redbean5
Member since Jan 2008
2286 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:00 pm to
How do you know they voluntarily transferred or told to leave because they were not meeting team goals?
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Someone is finally looking at the facts of recruiting.


We’ve had the most players in the NFL for how long now?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75677 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:32 pm to
He wrote the article...

Also until you show me a a few class from another school that goes post to post intact I dont Give a shite. People get passed by younger players when you recruit well.

Xavier Lewis was the 3rd best CB in that class.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:45 pm to
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I get it......O is a liar.

But let's not for even one moment act like Les routinely told the truth.

Coaches lie....its what they do....it's called survival instinct.



If your point is that O should be fired just like Les was I agree.

Otherwise I thought we hired another coach to surpass Les.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:25 pm to
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We’ve had the most players in the NFL for how long now?


they dont even realize that they are arguing against the belief that miles was underachieving with all that talent.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:03 am to
The talent loss to the NFL actually supports the idea that Coach O is rebuilding.....LSU hasn’t been able to keep up with the drain to the NFL....it was noticeable in Miles’ last 3 years...as he was building up his class rankings with high quality skill players but fluff in the trenches...
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:08 am to
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The talent loss to the NFL actually supports the idea that Coach O is rebuilding..




we always put lots of players into the nfl

no one labeled any year a rebuild year under the last regime.
no one labelled it a rebuilding process until O herp derped his way into 2 historic losses against teams that are infinitely less talented than lsu.
o sure as hell didn't think it was a rebuild because he publicly stated that we were going to make the playoffs in 2017.
no coach publicly states their team is going to the playoffs and especially when they think its a rebuild.

quote:

with high quality skill players but fluff in the trenches...


sigh . ......

quote:

dline players the day miles was fired.... 
2016 dline roster  

key  
alexander  
bower  
clark  
Anthony  
gilmore  
godchaux  
harper  
herron  
lacouture  
lawrence  
Logan  
neal  
valentine  
Washington  

Oline players the day miles was fired.. 

Clapp all sec 
allen 
aziz 
Boutte all sec 
Brumfield 
campbell 
cushenberry 
dodd 
malone 
magee 
pocic rimington award finalist all sec 
smith 
weathersby 


when miles was fired this team was littered with good players on both lines


people that are paid to evaluate talent had lsu as the 6th most talented roster in cfb
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:13 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
39020 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:02 am to
Lmao
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31191 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 2:15 am to
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The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.

Sounds like that's on the current head coach

And since he did the same thing with the OC, the current coach has a problem
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10323 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 3:05 am to
At LSU Saban won 30 games in his last 3 years, and Miles first 3 he won 34.
Are you actually saying Miles was a better coach of Saban's own players?
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7592 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 4:28 am to
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Well, the 2014 class would be 5th year seniors, so not sure why he's counting them in there to try and drum up his numbers.


My very first thought in all this nonsense.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:50 am to
Not impressed
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:51 am to
Those guys were getting pushed all over the field at Bama....fluff
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11926 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:58 am to
Yeah, it’s funny how he tries to act like a 2 outbid 3 hit rate on a recruiting class in year 3 is horrible and completely ignores that the class went through a coaching change where I did t blame the kids for leaving.

Without comparing attrition to other schools, his entire article is worthless.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 8:58 am to
Those guys suck at evaluating then....those guys couldn’t pass block to save their lives....they just didn’t have it....sorry if the truth hurts...offensive line needs a certain skill set....they didn’t have it...some may have the size, but were lacking in others....sorry if this bothers you, but our tackles were deplorable
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 9:00 am to
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or told to leave because they were not meeting team goals?

How smart of O to run off all of his experienced linemen
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