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re: The more you watch the reactions to the FSU snub….
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:04 am to burke985
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:04 am to burke985
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My problem with it is that they said they want the best teams, no one in the country would say with a straight face that the other three teams are better than Georgia. It don’t say in their metrics that you have to be a conference champion to participate in the final four but I’m sure it’s preferred. By their rationale of choosing Bama or even Texas over FSU they are contradicting themselves in the same sentence by not putting Georgia in. So it’s the process that is flawed and obviously biased based on who and where.
You're not allowing for all considerations. It's "best" teams considers talent, record, SoS, and conference championship win. UGA may be the better talented team than FSU, but I 100% believe they wouldn't put UGA in, a 1-loss conference runner up over 13-0 FSU. They arguably should have left Cincinnati out of the CFP, but the nearest better team was a 2-loss conference champion.
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:06 am to champj3
I know it's the wrong thing when all these Gump Humpers like it. 
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:06 am to NorthSider72
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Can't deny Alabama deserves in
Oh man, old habits die hard.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:07 am to 314stunna
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. If bama beats Michigan or wins it all then they got it right. If uga beats fsu they got it right.
No it doesn’t. This is crazy logic.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:07 am to Ponchy Tiger
that's what I said Ponchy
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:09 am to DakIsNoLB
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FSU didn't destroy their solid opponents.
Oh, I see, so they won, but not by enough.
Goalposts always move to favor Bama.
Bama wins a close game...hell, Bama LOSES a close game "great teams find ways to win or great teams find ways to keep games close" is the argument.
Tier 2 program wins all of their games, with some being close, "well Tier 2 program didn't win by enough points!"
LOLOL
You folks make this too easy.
Why is it so hard to admit some programs play by different standards? Do you really and truly believe CFB isn't slanted to favor the media's favorite teams?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:13 am to lsusa
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The outcome of the decision is moot in judging whether the methodology of the decision was correct.
Whether Alabama wins or loses by 40 points, it has no bearing on the fact that the committee made the wrong decision.
Ignorant people parrot rhetoric like this regarding 2011, 2014 and 2017 all the time. Super ignorant people (aka Gump fans) take it to the extreme regarding TCU’s loss to UGA last year…forgetting that TCU was actually the 3 seed not the 4, and defeated previously undefeated Michigan in the semi-finals.
2011: Not a CFP year, so how is this relevant?
2014: What happened that was so bad here? All four teams were conference champions with 1 or 0 losses.
2017: not an easy decision this year. Ohio St was a 2-loss conference champion. UCF was undefeated but a weak schedule. Wisconsin was a 1-loss conference runner up like Bama. I would have preferred Bama not get in, but it wasn't an indefensible decision.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:13 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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You folks make this too easy.
Abused spouse syndrome.
Alabama owns their subconscious.
FSU did everything they could to get in the playoffs even after losing their QB. They scheduled a far better non conference schedule than any other team in the playoffs.
Michigan is the weak link, not FSU. Go look at Michigan's schedule.
Alabama gets a mulligan for losing at home by two scores, and squeaking by Auburn.
"LSU Fans" still cling to Sabans nuts.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:14 am to Champagne
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Yes. But, this element and factor in the equation has always been a part of picking the CFB national champion
sure it was.
but they always used results of the games that already happened.
this committee literally left them out because they don’t think they will win it.
so for the first time ever they are (openly) actually using a future prediction as their reasoning rather than past results.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:16 am to 5iveEuax4eaux
Ok, so we'll play the "what if" game...
What if Bama was #1 and lost to UGA, BUT, they had the better SOS...do you think Bama would have fallen down as far as UGA did?
No sir...maybe 3rd or 4th. And still be in..while UGA, the SEC champ would be left out.
Why are people blind to this?
Top 4 should be...in no particular order...
- Michigan
- Washington
- FSU
- UGA
They give Bama the benefit of the doubt every year...why shouldn't UGA get that very same benefit?
OR...
Just piss everybody off and put Liberty in... they're undefeated.
What if Bama was #1 and lost to UGA, BUT, they had the better SOS...do you think Bama would have fallen down as far as UGA did?
No sir...maybe 3rd or 4th. And still be in..while UGA, the SEC champ would be left out.
Why are people blind to this?
Top 4 should be...in no particular order...
- Michigan
- Washington
- FSU
- UGA
They give Bama the benefit of the doubt every year...why shouldn't UGA get that very same benefit?
OR...
Just piss everybody off and put Liberty in... they're undefeated.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:16 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Oh, I see, so they won, but not by enough.
Goalposts always move to favor Bama.
Bama wins a close game...hell, Bama LOSES a close game "great teams find ways to win or great teams find ways to keep games close" is the argument.
Tier 2 program wins all of their games, with some being close, "well Tier 2 program didn't win by enough points!"
LOLOL
You folks make this too easy.
Why is it so hard to admit some programs play by different standards? Do you really and truly believe CFB isn't slanted to favor the media's favorite teams?
No, you're taking something out of context to suit your argument. An argument (yours or someone else's) against Bama is that they had close wins against some of their opponents, yet FSU gets a feather in their cap for barely beating their solid opponents. It's a wash; Florida St no more destroyed their "solid" opponents than Bama did some of theirs. Difference is Bama beat some tougher opponents and beat arguably one of the best teams in UGA. FSU doesn't have that.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Abused spouse syndrome.
Alabama owns their subconscious.
Sounds more like they own yours.
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FSU did everything they could to get in the playoffs even after losing their QB. They scheduled a far better non conference schedule than any other team in the playoffs.
So did Bama and Texas. I'll refer you to their respective opponents' combined win-loss records compared to FSU 77-79. Bama and Texas didn't need the OoC opponents because their conference opponents were better (and Bama and Texas played each other, so there's a notch for OoC).
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Alabama gets a mulligan for losing at home by two scores, and squeaking by Auburn.
To a 1-loss conference P5 conference champion with a good SoS.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:24 am to DakIsNoLB
Bama and Texas played. Bama lost. Bama gets a mulligan. Texas has the honor of playing Bama again.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:25 am to champj3
I hate Bama too, but the committee got it right.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:26 am to themunch
This is a done deal. It is not going to change. It's still wrong.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:28 am to Nutriaitch
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sure it was.
but they always used results of the games that already happened.
this committee literally left them out because they don’t think they will win it.
so for the first time ever they are (openly) actually using a future prediction as their reasoning rather than past results.
I'm not sure that I've made myself completely clear with you. Back when the UPI and AP poll picked the mythical NC, two or more teams often had the same W/L record. In those cases, the decision on who was the NC was almost completely 100 percent subjective.
And I pose the question to the larger CFB base of fans - Why are some CFB fans not used to the fact that the 4 team playoff tournament teams are often selected by using very subjective and speculative criteria? Because CFB has always been this way. Always will be, too.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 9:31 am
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:31 am to paulb52
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Go it wrong? Who would FSU replace? All four plus Georgia are better teams. Actually #6 Georgia is 14 point favorite over FSU in Orange Bowl. That should be a hint.
#2 was a 9.5 point dog last weekend. What did that “hint” at?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:32 am to DakIsNoLB
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2011: Not a CFP year, so how is this relevant?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:33 am to RB10
5 conferences, 4 spots. The right team got left out. Actually Washington should have been left out too, with Georgia in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:34 am to BMoney
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I hate Bama too, but the committee got it right.
Not objectively.
Only if you include feelings and personal preferences.
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