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re: The game was called well.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:08 am to BeesWax
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:08 am to BeesWax
quote:Nope. He stuck his elbow down and in towards his body. Saying “out” is simply wrong
Was using out in the general sense. He stuck his arm out to the ball.
His elbow was factually moving away from the plate as it got hit
It’s a fact to say he was moving further away from the strike zone when he was struck, and then he got called out for being hit while moving away from the plate.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 10:11 am
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:16 am to SelaTiger
The Dickinson play was absolutely not correct. The umpire has to find intent. No one ever would try to get by Ball Four. No intent, no intentional HBP.
I guess you thought Patrick Peterson was out of bounds, didn’t you?
I don’t know where they find these replay officials.
I guess you thought Patrick Peterson was out of bounds, didn’t you?
I don’t know where they find these replay officials.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:16 am to scott8811
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Since no advantage can be gained by getting hit on a ball on a 3 ball count it should be assumed the batter did not do it intentionally.
Tru dat /\
I'd go even farther and say if the batter gets hit on ball 4 and it is well outside the strike zone, the batter should be awarded an extra base - and all runners on base advance.
but if it appears to be intentional by the batter - only award 1st base, i.e. no penalty
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:21 am to lsupride87
Not sure what you don’t understand about out in the general sense. His arm was not tight to his body. It went to the ball clearly and was called in review as doing such.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:24 am to SelaTiger
I had no issue with the strike zone
As far as the HBP, what I saw was Dickinsons elbow slightly moving down but it was due to him “cocking” for a possible swing. As soon as he saw the ball coming towards him the elbow started to go back. I don’t understand how that wasn’t clear to the umps and to anyone who thinks it was a good call. It was outrageous and I’m just thankful it didn’t cost us the game.
As far as the HBP, what I saw was Dickinsons elbow slightly moving down but it was due to him “cocking” for a possible swing. As soon as he saw the ball coming towards him the elbow started to go back. I don’t understand how that wasn’t clear to the umps and to anyone who thinks it was a good call. It was outrageous and I’m just thankful it didn’t cost us the game.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:28 am to BeesWax
quote:Because in all walks of baseball you “lean OUT over the plate”
Not sure what you don’t understand about out in the general sense
He is moving away from the plate. Saying his elbow was OUT, is against all baseball terminology
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:29 am to SelaTiger
quote:
The Dickinson play was correct. He did move his elbow into it.
The pitch was in the batters box.
Terrible call.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:31 am to Blutarsky
quote:It doesn’t matter, which is the problem with the rule. In that case it should just be a ball instead of a strike.
The pitch was in the batters box.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:32 am to lsupride87
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He is moving away from the plate. Saying his elbow was OUT, is against all baseball terminology
I explained what I meant by out. He put his elbow to the ball and the review shows this and was called as such. If LSU lost the CWS on this play with a Coastal player doing it and it wasn’t called, you’d be singing a different tune.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:44 am to BeesWax
The coastal Carolinia players multiple time were moving into the ball as they were hit
You are allowed to be moving into the ball as you are hit…
You are allowed to be moving into the ball as you are hit…
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:47 am to lsupride87
Lol okay. Continue to be obtuse. The review showed him reach his elbow towards the ball as he has done all year.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 10:49 am to 0x15E
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This and Jeff Head not doing more to get out of the way are my only two gripes.
He looked like a fairy trying to get out of the way.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:10 am to SelaTiger
You don’t know shite
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:11 am to SelaTiger
Can agree with everything except the Dickinson call. The call should only be made when it's obvious, not in a situation like last night.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:13 am to SelaTiger
He was in the batter’s box. There is no way to infer intent. Any such call is misguided.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:15 am to SelaTiger
The umpire on first got in the way of a ball the should have been LSU’s second run and also found himself in the middle of 3 Coastal players on a play at first. Even if you want to argue the game was called well, the fact that you have an umpire incapable of knowing where to go to not impact a play is pathetic.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:16 am to SelaTiger
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The Dickinson play was correct. He did move his elbow into it.
Not what the rule says. The rule says he has to intentionally move to get hit. He didn't move to get hit, he was getting hit already. Whatever move he makes is immaterial according to the rule that is written down in the NCAA rulebook.
I know the umps interpreted it differently but if they "interpret" the ball/strike rule to require 4 strikes for an out and 3 balls for a walk, that doesn't make it right. The rule says what the rule says, and he didn't move to get hit. He moved his arm to get hit on the padded arm instead of his exposed ribs. This is 100% indistinguishable from a guy that has a fastball headed for his face who turns his head to take it on the helmet. Any suggestion that the rule somehow distinguishes between that and what happened last night is being disingenuous at best.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:29 am to SelaTiger
Meh.
Strike zone was all over the place.
Hit by pitch call was BS.
1st base ump couldn’t get his big behind away from the ball.
Strike zone was all over the place.
Hit by pitch call was BS.
1st base ump couldn’t get his big behind away from the ball.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:56 am to SelaTiger
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but the correct call according to the rules.
No.
Is this going to be like idiots defending the "tuck rule" and the Calvin Johnson no catch calls?
Posted on 6/22/25 at 11:59 am to BeesWax
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Lol okay. Continue to be obtuse. The review showed him reach his elbow towards the ball as he has done all year.
Lol okay. It wasn’t an off speed pitch dude. Dickinson didn’t even have enough time to make a decision to get hbp even if the intention was to do so.
Watch it in real time until this sinks in.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 12:00 pm
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