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re: The Curious Cases of Will Wade and Nicholas Sandmann

Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:12 am to
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13967 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:12 am to
I don't see Wade coaching at LSU again, but not because of the suspension. There are narratives on this board that are completely grounded int the Twilight Zone.

LSU does not want to fire Wade, he'd absolutely be gone already if they wanted him gone.

There isn't any proof, in terms of a smoking gun, but there's much more concrete evidence of impropriety with Wade than with some other coaches. The NCAA does need to prove its case, but the Rant's fantasy of "there's nothing to see here, move along, smart is an adjective, not a name" is laughable.

Getting the NCAA involved immediately, demanding that Wade meet with the NCAA, and suspending him for not is what's going to save LSU from "lack of institutional control".

I completely understand Wade's attorney's concerns in not having him testify, but it's not because the FBI told him not to talk, as the Rant thinks. They can't do that. Wade's attorney is concerned about Wade's criminal exposure. Never have people been prosecuted criminally for bribing kids to play for certain colleges. That paradigm has shifted, monumentally. Wade's attorney doesn't want him potentially being swept into that. LSU, meanwhile, has to protect LSU from the NCAA sanction hammer. I totally get the standoff, and I think LSU does, too.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155621 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:12 am to
Some redneck always mixing right wing politics with collegiate sports . Y tho
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:14 am to
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Some redneck always mixing right wing politics with collegiate sports . Y tho



I am an independent that supports John Kasich.

Both instances are where conclusions were made without full evidence.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33483 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:14 am to
Mr. Sandmann, bring me a dream....
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:15 am to
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"1984" when he foresaw "facecrimes".


Nice reference. I had forgotten about that. It's been years since I've read that book.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:16 am to
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In the case of Will Wade we have a snippet of AUDIO that was leaked to a reporter by someone with the agenda.


Portions of one transcript were read into the record in federal court. The feds did not object to the accuracy of the transcript.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7574 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:17 am to
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He also made the situation worse and was trying to ratchet up the confrontation.


WHAT A LIE!
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59651 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:18 am to
Yea I dont agree with you
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32494 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:23 am to
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That kid is creepy, and he’s not as innocent as you make him out to be. He also made the situation worse and was trying to ratchet up the confrontation. Nobody looked good in that incident.

Why don't you just say the real reason you don't like the kid? Be a man about it.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:25 am to
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I don't see Wade coaching at LSU again, but not because of the suspension. There are narratives on this board that are completely grounded int the Twilight Zone.

LSU does not want to fire Wade, he'd absolutely be gone already if they wanted him gone.

There isn't any proof, in terms of a smoking gun, but there's much more concrete evidence of impropriety with Wade than with some other coaches. The NCAA does need to prove its case, but the Rant's fantasy of "there's nothing to see here, move along, smart is an adjective, not a name" is laughable.

Getting the NCAA involved immediately, demanding that Wade meet with the NCAA, and suspending him for not is what's going to save LSU from "lack of institutional control".

I completely understand Wade's attorney's concerns in not having him testify, but it's not because the FBI told him not to talk, as the Rant thinks. They can't do that. Wade's attorney is concerned about Wade's criminal exposure. Never have people been prosecuted criminally for bribing kids to play for certain colleges. That paradigm has shifted, monumentally. Wade's attorney doesn't want him potentially being swept into that. LSU, meanwhile, has to protect LSU from the NCAA sanction hammer. I totally get the standoff, and I think LSU does, too.





What is the "concrete" evidence? And if LSU wanted to fire Wade they would NOT have done it quickly if they wanted to avoid his buyout. Is is possible they did not want to fire him? Yes. Is it ALSO possible they wanted to fire him and wanted to speak to him under their terms with the NCAA present to give them more solid ground on which to fire him? Yes.

And I also do not believe the FBI would have told him not to discuss his testimony. It was likely purely his attorney's advice.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 8:27 am
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16908 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:26 am to
Wow. Wtf is wrong with your brain.
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:29 am to
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That kid is creepy, and he’s not as innocent as you make him out to be. He also made the situation worse and was trying to ratchet up the confrontation. Nobody looked good in that incident.


Thanks for letting everyone know you have no idea what you’re talking about. Also, thanks for helping prove his case vs CNN
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:31 am to
Off to never never land
Posted by lafayettelsu
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2016
264 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:32 am to
Creepy Atlanta poster
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:32 am to
weird thread and a bit of a stretch of a comparison
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:33 am to
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Portions of one transcript were read into the record in federal court. The feds did not object to the accuracy of the transcript.




I never questioned the veracity of the transcript. I stated it was a PORTION. OF course, no attorney would use a specific portion to skew the meaning of the entire conversation, would they?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:34 am to
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Another biased media twisted story.
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Which certainly could be the case with Will Wade.
massive difference - Will Wade is on tape.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:36 am to
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I never questioned the veracity of the transcript. I stated it was a PORTION. OF course, no attorney would use a specific portion to skew the meaning of the entire conversation, would they?
you're REALLY stretching here.

Wade is on tape talking about a "strong arse offer" made to Smart and his family, with the offer being "tilted more toward the family."

Good luck trying to spin that.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18073 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:38 am to
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Maybe he can’t speak about an ongoing investigation of which he is a witness. Maybe. I don’t know.


How can a simple proclamation of your innocence hamper an investigation in any way? I’d be saying it over and over. His world is crumbling around him.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7574 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:44 am to
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Getting the NCAA involved immediately, demanding that Wade meet with the NCAA, and suspending him for not is what's going to save LSU from "lack of institutional control".


This is my biggest issue with LSU. NCAA Bylaws dictate how investigations are to take place. No where does it state the NCAA has the right to sit in on a meeting a school is conducting with an employee.

The NCAA can request to interview Wade themselves, or the NCAA can start a formal investigation by sending a Letter of Inquiry to the school President.At that point the school can request a Summary of Disposition whereby both investigate together. (Maybe this is happening and has not been reported)

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