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re: The committee should send a clear message that conference games matter

Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:13 am to
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11920 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:13 am to
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They showed they didn’t matter when they put Bama in last year.


Didn’t they put Ohio St in over Penn St a few years ago? And if I remember correctly Penn St won the head to head. Ohio St. just had a better record. The committee made it clear there are no standards when it comes to the playoffs.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3532 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:14 am to
That is too simplistic and leaves too much room for maneuvering. In essence the committee can decide each year which teams are the 4 best by using whatever metric they choose in a given year, without telling anyone what those metrics are until after the decision is made.

No one would accept this with the interest rate of their mortgage, allowing the lender to switch around the rate at will for whatever reason they want to and only letting you know after the fact because the committee felt they were the best.

There is NO WAY to accurately predict the 4 best teams. Any team can beat any other team on any given day so the results of the CFP will never be the 4 best teams; the results will be the 4 teams the committee “selected” or “invited” to the CFP.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:16 am to
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If ND joined the ACC their schedule would overall be much easier outside Clemson. Pushing them in a conference is the opposite of what you want.
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Not really bc their big opponents every year USC, Stanford, etc have to play 8 conference games that essentially are more important than the ND game...but for ND those 2-3 games vs above average P5 schools are their big games.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3618 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:17 am to
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The committee is a mess who don’t know what they are looking for. Their answers


This. The whole process is really vulnerable to corruption. This is why process and criteria are agreed to in writing. If this committee of 13 has absolute power why the heck doesn't LSU have someone on that committee?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:19 am to
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That is too simplistic and leaves too much room for maneuvering


It would bring order to chaos. Gone would the day of scheduling Kent state or UAB. Play your 8 conference games and the other games would be teams from other power 5 conferences. It would be more like the NFL system.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:45 am to
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Didn’t they put Ohio St in over Penn St a few years ago? And if I remember correctly Penn St won the head to head. Ohio St. just had a better record. The committee made it clear there are no standards when it comes to the playoffs.


Yes but that was the old committee, this committee has many new members.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45123 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:59 am to
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That is too simplistic and leaves too much room for maneuvering. In essence the committee can decide each year which teams are the 4 best by using whatever metric they choose in a given year, without telling anyone what those metrics are until after the decision is made.


That is exactly what they do.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 8:59 am to
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There is NO WAY to accurately predict the 4 best teams.


The problem is most of you seem to think the “best” teams is some kind of provable scientific fact, rather than just an opinion, which it is.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:00 am to
Totally agree ND doesn’t deserve special Tx.
The only thing keeping ND out of a conference is the sweet heart deal they have with the NCAA. Why would they ever dream of splitting Play off money with 10-12 other teams when they can keep it all for themselves.
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 9:10 am
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:01 am to
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They showed they didn’t matter when they put Bama in last year. The precedent has already been set.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:05 am to
If both Georgia and Notre Dame get in, I think the other 3 conferences who aren't in will finally have to make a push for 8 teams with conference champs automatically qualifying.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:10 am to
8 team playoff would ruin college football
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
5700 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 9:18 am to
That ship sailed last year.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5228 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:05 am to
Ohio State has an impossibly bad loss...stop with the recency bias. The entire season matters.

ND played a hard enough schedule to warrant inclusion, given that they are undefeated.

1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. ND
4. OU
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1590 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:12 am to
A realist gets 50% down votes... wow. Choosing the best four from bama, clemson, notre dame, OU, ohio state AND georgia is certainly a challenge BUT putting bama, clemson and notre dame in the CFP should be automatic.
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3002 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:15 am to
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here is NO WAY to accurately predict the 4 best teams. Any team can beat any other team on any given day so the results of the CFP will never be the 4 best teams; the results will be the 4 teams the committee “selected” or “invited” to the CFP.


Based largely on how much $$$$$$$ is to made.
Posted by JustinT37
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1811 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:27 am to
Ohio State got blown out by Purdue and almost lost to Maryland. They don’t deserve to be in the final 4. Notre Dame hasn’t been beaten...
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
15643 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:55 am to
I agree ND is bullshite. They will get embarrassed by whoever they play their first game
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9687 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 11:12 am to
Actually, Ohio state was the first non champ to get a bid to the playoffs. Not Bama.
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