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re: The big Elephant in the room
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:02 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:02 pm to ApexTiger
quote:I'm one of those fans. My view was that beating a historically good Bama team (one of the best defenses of all time), and taking the entire season into account, would propel LSU to the top of the list of the best CFB teams of all time.
Why do you think these LSU fans wanted to play Alabama again after beating Alabama already and having to play an additional game than the Tide?
Beating Okie State would have been very good, but like Oregon, WVU, Arkansas, etc., not as impressive as knocking off the consensus no. 2 team in the country.
Twice.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:03 pm to BhamDore
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LSU lost because they played scared
Not really, perhaps coached that way on offense
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Won every statistical category and broke even in turnover margin.
False!!!
Bama didn't win the rush stat 144-96, and they lost the special team stats by huge margin. LSU made a lot of mistakes that made the game close...1 dropped TD by Randle and 2 gifted Pics in the first half...
LSU was the most complete team all year long. Beating ranked teams by 14-25pts
T up a T-breaker game next week in Tiger Stadium and see who has more motivation? LSU would likely win that game
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:04 pm to Tall Tiger
quote:And losing to the no. 1 team in the country by three points in overtime. The only team who came within a mile of beating LSU all year.
Bama had no body of work other than a win over Arkansas.
Alabama deserved to be in the title game, and they proved it by winning.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:06 pm to Ice Cold
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taking the entire season into account, would propel LSU to the top of the list of the best CFB teams of all time.
Never understood this. It was obvious Bama was a risk and beating a champion of another BCS conference(considered by some the best this year) would look better on resume than beating a team you already have.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:07 pm to Ice Cold
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I'm one of those fans. My view was that beating a historically good Bama team (one of the best defenses of all time), and taking the entire season into account, would propel LSU to the top of the list of the best CFB teams of all time. Beating Okie State would have been very good, but like Oregon, WVU, Arkansas, etc., not as impressive as knocking off the consensus no. 2 team in the country. Twice.
I'm one of those fans that would really enjoy seeing alabama left out of the MNC game because they lost to LSU the first time...
And winning a National Championship...14-0 and still be considered ONE the best of all time. Beating 9 ranked teams is awesome!
IT FREAKING RETARDED TO BEAT ALABAMA TWICE IN ONE SEASON TO BE CONSIDERED THE BEST OF ALL TIME
YOU FANS HAVE LOST YOU COLLECTIVE MINDS...WE BEAT 3 TEAMS IN THE TOP 3, BAMA, O, AND ARKANSAS.
WAKE UP! WE HAD NOTHING TO PROVE BY BEATING ALABAMA AGAIN.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:08 pm to Bellabama
just think that anyone who appreciates football, rather than someone who wants a notch on the bedpost, would feel like they needed to play the best team to win.
This is fricking rich coming from a fan of the team that "claims" to share a title with an undefeated team that beat them (ND in in the 73 Sugar bowl)
.Cake. Have. Eat.
This is fricking rich coming from a fan of the team that "claims" to share a title with an undefeated team that beat them (ND in in the 73 Sugar bowl)
.Cake. Have. Eat.
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:10 pm to ApexTiger
LSU was horrible offensively all year. I know, I know 38 pts per game. In reality without turnovers and big special team plays LSU offense was among the worst in the country for the last 3 years.
LSU defense was good not great like Bama's. LSU defense did a lot of bending and could not force a turnover or a 3 and out to help flip field position for the horrible offense.
In the two games combined Bama only punted maybe 6 times. Think about that for a sec. Out of about 20 or more offensive posessions LSU defense could only force a punt a handful of times.
LSU defense was good not great like Bama's. LSU defense did a lot of bending and could not force a turnover or a 3 and out to help flip field position for the horrible offense.
In the two games combined Bama only punted maybe 6 times. Think about that for a sec. Out of about 20 or more offensive posessions LSU defense could only force a punt a handful of times.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:10 pm to ApexTiger
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WE HAD NOTHING TO PROVE BY BEATING ALABAMA AGAIN.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:10 pm to ApexTiger
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LSU would likely win that game
The game I saw had LSU with 92 yards of offense for the entire game and made it to the 47 ydl of Alabama one time. You can't honestly say LSU would have won in Tiger Stadium. The home field advantage has historically been dubious for that game. When you can base an argument without using hypothetical points to prove it, fine, but until then, you can't give LSU the only hypothetical edge.
If LSU get's the benefit of hypothetical if's while keeping Alabama's play as the real version of what actually happened, Alabama gets to go hypothetical and keep LSU the real version.
So Alabama got all of the field goals and the deep pass wasn't an interception.
Alabama therefore beat LSU by 19 points. There would be no chance for a rematch, and Alabama would have played Okie State and won, after beating UGA.
See how ridiculous that is?
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:12 pm to German Shepard
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WE HAD NOTHING TO PROVE BY BEATING ALABAMA AGAIN.
Except who was the best team...
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:12 pm to German Shepard
The BCS NC game wasn't about proving anything. It was about winning it to be the National Champion. Plain and simple.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:13 pm to German Shepard
Majority of the nation felt Alabama was still a better team after 11/5 and most of the talking heads were talking how bama lost moreso than LSU won.
LSU was plenty motivated. They just were not lucky enough to pull off two upsets in one season
LSU was plenty motivated. They just were not lucky enough to pull off two upsets in one season
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:13 pm to Bellabama
I'm out...going to see if they will now let LSU fans post on Bama boards.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:15 pm to Crow Pie
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This is fricking rich coming from a fan of the team that "claims" to share a title with an undefeated team that beat them (ND in in the 73 Sugar bowl)
.Cake. Have. Eat
So when the BCS is reconfigured, and a different method of picking a title is chosen, the two LSU had with the rules that were set forth in the years that they won will be lost. That's fine.
I'm sure the AP title will be valid, so you can still have 2007.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:15 pm to Crow Pie
LSU had a great team, but Bama was better all year really. LSU had a better special team unit, but Bama had better offense, defense and better overall experienced talent.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:16 pm to Alahunter
It was their time.
We can wait for ours.
We can wait for ours.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:16 pm to Crow Pie
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I'm out...going to see if they will now let LSU fans post on Bama boards.
Sick burn....
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:17 pm to Bellabama
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The game I saw had LSU with 92 yards of offense for the entire game and made it to the 47 ydl of Alabama one time. You can't honestly say LSU would have won in Tiger Stadium. The home field advantage has historically been dubious for that game. When you can base an argument without using hypothetical points to prove it, fine, but until then, you can't give LSU the only hypothetical edge. If LSU get's the benefit of hypothetical if's while keeping Alabama's play as the real version of what actually happened, Alabama gets to go hypothetical and keep LSU the real version. So Alabama got all of the field goals and the deep pass wasn't an interception. Alabama therefore beat LSU by 19 points. There would be no chance for a rematch, and Alabama would have played Okie State and won, after beating UGA. See how ridiculous that is?
I'm saying if we play a 3rd game in Tiger Stadium without a lot of delay, LSU would likely win based on how the last game played out...scheme, motivation, home feild advantage etc...
We can what if all day
When I am old, this game will be the game that should have never been played...
And honestly,it does hurt deep because it's Alabama and Nick Saban...
Ive been a Tiger fan since the Mid 70's...had to endure a lot of tough losses during that time frame.
We have a big year and beat you on your home feild. We go undefeated and win the SEC and look, Alabama gets a 2nd shot!
Oh goody for us!
"See you next season"
That's my take, no one will ever change my mind
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:17 pm to ApexTiger
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I'm saying if we play a 3rd game in Tiger Stadium without a lot of delay, LSU would likely win based on how the last game played out...scheme, motivation, home feild advantage etc...
We can what if all day
When I am old, this game will be the game that should have never been played...
And honestly,it does hurt deep because it's Alabama and Nick Saban...
Ive been a Tiger fan since the Mid 70's...had to endure a lot of tough losses during that time frame.
We have a big year and beat you on your home feild. We go undefeated and win the SEC and look, Alabama gets a 2nd shot!
Oh goody for us!
"See you next season"
That's my take, no one will ever change my mind
But your reality isn't how the game is played. You have to get over it.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:17 pm to Bellabama
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There would be no chance for a rematch
If the regular season is supposed to mean so much in college football, then what value did LSU beating Bama IN Tuscaloosa really have? The answer is nothing...I think that's what really pisses off LSU fans.
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